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Letter to the editor:

GOP engages in class warfare in reverse

Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2008 | 2:04 a.m.

I’ve been extremely frustrated by John McCain and Sarah Palin’s charges that Barack Obama is a socialist and that his tax plan equates to class warfare.

I would like to know what the past eight years of Bush’s economic and fiscal policy were, if not class warfare. Bush’s tax cuts, although geared toward most taxpayers, placed a good deal of the cut not upon the middle class and the working poor but upon the richest people in America.

Meanwhile beneficial programs that were geared toward America’s infrastructure and social needs were neglected, leaving many people to struggle.

Now McCain charges that Obama’s plan equates to redistribution of wealth and socialism. However, McCain neglects to realize that our country is in a terrible economic crisis. People are out of work, people are losing their homes, and the programs that we need to help in this crisis are sadly lacking.

We cannot continue this unequal distribution of America’s tax funds to the richest people in America; it is class warfare, but not in the way McCain states it is. This is a class warfare that has hurt the middle class and the working poor.

Discussion: 16 comments so far…

  1. Is it class warfare to not want to send working peoples money to people that don't work. Go to the big cities of this country and find millions refusing to go to even high school for training as they are on generational handouts. The Obama plan is to give them more. Sen. Edwards told ACORN he wanted the federal government to match poor peoples savings dollar for dollar till they weren't poor any longer. What is this election really about? It's about tearing America down and giving it away. How long will it be before "slave reparations" are back on the agenda?

  2. "millions", neiman? Please STOP getting your "information" from AM radio.

    BTW, this election is really about getting rid of the "wealthy-first" attitude that has been rampant since Dubya took office.

    Why do you people ALWAYS vote AGAINST your own best interests? Not one of you on these boards is part of that 5% club; and none of you ever will be, especially if you keep voting for the very people who piss all over you time and time again.

    And you all go back and beg for more!!

    I will never understand that mindset. Amazing. Simply amazing.

  3. Differences in the McCain and Obama families:

    1. McCain graduated 894th in an 899 member class at the Naval Academy.
    Obama graduated with high honors in his Harvard Law class.

    2. McCain married Cindy about one month after he broke up his first family.
    Obama, married once, close family.

    3. Cindy McCain, daughter of a rich beer distributor, has confessed an
    addiction to drugs and to stealing drugs.

    4. Michelle Obama, Barack's wife, from a poor family, has degrees from
    Princeton and Harvard Law School.

  4. Highlights of Obama and his family:

    1. Obama has refuse to release his Columbia Univ records. He only gives like 2 sentences to that part of his life in his bio.

    What he is hiding?

    2. Obama has a brother that lives on $1 a month in a shack. Obama has made millions in the last couple of years but not one cent to his brother.

    3. Obama admitted to being a frequent user of cocaine.

    4. Michelle Obama as an excutive at her hospital set up a program where poor people who did not have insurance got shipped to the poor's peoples hospital to make more money for her hospital.

  5. "Why do you people ALWAYS vote AGAINST your own best interests? Not one of you on these boards is part of that 5% club; and none of you ever will be, especially if you keep voting for the very people who piss all over you time and time again."

    I am! Actually, in the "Top-2 to 3%" or so, best as I can figure. So, "not one of you" debunked!!

    The Bush Tax Cuts, which caused economic growth that liberal Congressionals have negated much of it with their bad-debt-for-bad-mortgages efforts these last 15+ years -caused this economic crisis just before an election of course. The tax cuts were and are the best way to have escaped the OTHER economic scandal suffered under the First Bush Term - all those corporations cooking the books and falsifying their finances IN THE 90S, IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. So, the first time - the Clinton-era presented a rotten, juiced, embezzled-out "buck" to blame on Bush - armed with the small liberal-lying fig-leaf excuse of "it happened on your (Bush's) watch".

    Today, when a "bank" gets robbed, social communists like Obama, Frank, Dodd, Nan, Pinkie et all - and his minions here = BLAME THE BANK, instead of the robbers' actions. After all, the economic criminals "need the money"(mq).

    Each American taxpayer got a tax cut based on their individual circumstances - based on where each person is and what they've EARNED in life; not as a wealth redistribution / working welfare scheme like the social communist, Obama, desires.

    No class, race or sexist "warfare" existed during the Bush Tax cuts. Obama's working welfare plan has all of it and promises more....

    Call Obama's working welfare plan a "Wealth Theft" plan. Taking wealth and "spreading (it) around" is more like socialism/fascism, because Obama is efforting Government as ownership of the results of "means of production", and the wealth above 250K is seized/stolen and "spread around" to those who haven't earned that wealth BY THE FORCE OF CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.

    Tax cuts, lower spending and individual responsibility is a political theorem that Republicans can always return to, to re-commit to. LSDs have no principles and therefore need to say and do ANYTHING to get a chance to seize/steal/rob the wealth of others and "spread it around".

    Anyway, "Patricia" is so very easy to debunk - I couldn't resist this fly-by.

  6. NV: The most likely reason for the refusal to release the Columbia records is because they show that he was born in Kenya. Obama's plan is very simple: he wants to take wealth from the working class to the loafing class, the natural constituency of dreamers and crass opportunists.

  7. I'm not necessarily down with that first point, "mikegino".

    IMO, he wouldn't have come as far as he has without having that squared away.

    We'll see, but odds are long.

  8. NV: Have you read the most recent pleadings? Lawyer Berg is either spot on or he's a lunatic. In any event, Berg is not a Libertarian as Red tried to claim (unsuccessfully, as usual).

  9. Wow, I had gotten used to the crazies calling Obama socialist and communist, but now fascist?

    Why don't you guys find something better to do. I mean I get it, you're rich and white and don't want to pay more taxes.

    Not sure where you made your money, but the destruction of the middle class will eventually lead to the destruction of the society we enjoy today.

    But maybe that's the way you want it?

    I have many friends at whom I cringe at when they talk politics - but I have heard them saying they are voting Democrat this time around because their business is in trouble.

    They would rather pay a little more in tax than potentially lose their financial stability.

    Stop your ranting for a minute and think about it.

  10. Still more words to still say ..... nothing.

    One would think at some point you'd catch a clue, especially if you're "[a]ctually, in the "Top-2 to 3%" or so, best as I can figure."

    I did mention that you should seek some help on another thread. You might just want to heed that as your rantings are becoming increasingly delusional.

  11. I say we draw a line down the center of the country, republicans get the west, democrats get the east. stay on your side.

  12. Nobody in the "Top-2 to 3%" can relate to the common man, including neiman1.

    It is stunning to me that to this day, the racists on this board (and elsewhere) spew their hatred without even the slightest compassion or thought of those "other people" as human beings. As if all people are automatically worthless if they are not the right color.

    Not only is it hateful, but it boggles the mind to think that anyone would use color as a way to determine a person's value. Not only because of the damage it does to all of us, but also because it reflects incredible stupidity.

    One can easily assume that if neiman1 had been born black, his opinions would be vastly different. That, to me, is the real test. His opinions are always from the view of white men in a white mans world.

    Sure, everybody who lacks wealth is lazy. And everyone whose ethnic is a thief and/or on welfare.

    I feel sad for all of us that people like this are still so prevalent in our society.

  13. "I say we draw a line down the center of the country, republicans get the west, democrats get the east. stay on your side."

    How 'bout the crazy right-wing republicans can all just move to Alaska and love Palin all they want? Heck, then they can secede like her husband's group wanted to and make her president.

    I mean, Alaska is pretty big, so there is plenty of room, and there aren't many minorities there, so I think it works out great for everyone.

    As for the sensible, thinking republicans, you should stay. Its good for REAL democracy, for which some have lost perspective.

  14. bitchincamaro, Alaska for the righties is a wonderful idea. Then they would be in a place as cold as they are.

    Brrrrrrr....

  15. Who in their right mind drives a camaro with gas prices as high as they are?

  16. Hahaha! Yes, well sad to say, I drive a Jeep wrangler. Probably gets worse mileage than a Camaro.

    I use it to explore the beautiful environment we have surrounding this strange, strange city.

    Perhaps when Obama is elected, and he fixes the economy, I can afford to buy an additional car - one that is more fuel efficient. (Had to throw that in there!)

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