SUN EDITORIAL:
Barack Obama: Our choice for President
Sunday, Oct. 19, 2008 | 2 a.m.
The closing weeks of the 2008 presidential election are starting to have the feel of the 1980 and 1992 races.
One of the threads that links the three presidential elections is the uncertain and troubling times, an anxiety intensified by a wobbly economy, which we certainly are living through today.
Public opinion is gloomy, as reflected in a recent CBS News-New York Times poll in which 89 percent of respondents said the country is on the wrong track and only 7 percent said we are on the right track.
The United States is facing what has been described as the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. A decline in consumer spending, concern over rising unemployment and the precipitous drop in the stock markets, in which so many Americans have their retirements tied up in 401(k) plans, are alarming.
In the 1980 and 1992 elections, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton were decidedly different in their political outlooks, but they won in part because they had an unerring sense of how to connect with the American people. Reagan and Clinton were victorious not just because their ideas resonated with voters but because they also offered the country optimism, a sense of hope and leadership that had been lacking in the White House.
Reagan and Clinton understood that voters wanted a dramatic change in direction in Washington and the nation, which brings us to this year’s presidential election.
BREAK FROM THE PAST
John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, and Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, each says he will bring genuine change to Washington.
McCain portrays himself as a maverick, but the reality is that on fundamental economic and foreign policy issues, his record is almost identical to that of George Bush, whose job approval ratings are abysmal, rivaling those of disgraced President Nixon when he was forced to resign from office in the wake of the Watergate scandal.
President Bush’s policies have saddled Americans with a $10 trillion debt and an economy that is shaky at best. McCain’s prescriptions for getting us out of this mess are something out of the Bush playbook — more tax cuts for the wealthy. If Bush’s policies aren’t working now, the warmed-over version of them that McCain is selling won’t be any more effective if he is elected president.
Obama, in contrast, wants more of any tax cuts or economic stimulus packages to go to the working men and women of this country, the ones who weren’t showered with the benefits from Bush’s tax cuts, which favored wealthier Americans.
A SOUND FOREIGN POLICY
McCain also enjoys selling himself as having the steady hand to be president, someone who can steer our country through crises, especially those that might require military action, and claims Obama is the untested commodity whom we can’t trust with the keys to the White House.
But it doesn’t go unnoticed that we still have nearly 150,000 troops in Iraq more than five years after we invaded that country, an invasion that Obama opposed and that both Bush and McCain assured us would be a walk in the park. So who had the sound judgment then?
We certainly can’t also forget that Osama bin Laden, more than seven years after the deadly 9/11 attacks, is still on the loose, probably along the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan, two nations that ostensibly are our allies.
McCain has ridiculed Obama for saying he would act unilaterally to get bin Laden if we couldn’t get the assistance of Pakistan’s government. McCain suggested that doing so could upset our relationship with that nation.
Sorry, but if Pakistan or any other government is harboring bin Laden, it’s tough to see exactly how it would be an ally and why our nation wouldn’t carry out a military operation against bin Laden. Look what he did to us.
When it comes to foreign policy, Obama has said he would stand by our allies, militarily if necessary. Still, he would strike a much different tone from that of Bush — with which McCain has agreed — stressing diplomacy in the first instance and military might if required.
WHY JUDGMENT MATTERS
When McCain made the surprise selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, he received a temporary bump in the polls. The McCain campaign touted Palin as a reformer who took on the Republican political establishment in Alaska and won.
But McCain’s selection of Palin is now viewed as a disaster. For starters, it’s an understatement to say she embellished her reputation as a reformer.
Initially she claimed she helped kill the infamous piece of pork in Alaska known as the Bridge to Nowhere. But she supported it wholeheartedly until a furor in Congress erupted over federal funding to build the bridge.
Only after it was clear Congress was going to cut funding for the bridge did she oppose it. Some reformer.
She has been governor of Alaska for less than two years and, before that, mayor of Wasilla, a town of fewer than 10,000 people. In what few interviews the McCain campaign has risked letting Palin give to the media, she has demonstrated how little she knows and understands about complex domestic and international issues.
The far right embraces Palin because she is an ideologue, but Americans have seen firsthand what eight years of an ideologue as president can do to our country. They want something different; they want someone who will make the best decision based on the facts, not based on whether it fits a particular political orthodoxy or suits the needs of a powerful special interest group.
Palin should never have been considered for the vice presidency, the proverbial heartbeat away from the presidency. McCain’s selection of Palin demonstrated a profound lack of judgment and is an insult to the American people.
Obama, in contrast, passed one of his first tests of presidential leadership when he asked Joe Biden to join the ticket. Biden, with his decades of service as a U.S. senator and his expertise in foreign policy, is more than capable of stepping in and being president.
A FRIEND OF NEVADA
Of special interest to Nevadans are the candidates’ views on the Yucca Mountain project.
If you liked George Bush, who made the decision to make Yucca Mountain the nation’s high-level nuclear waste dump, just 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas, then you’ll love McCain.
McCain can be counted on to tout his enthusiastic support for nuclear power and, with it, his gung-ho support for the Yucca Mountain project. He has voted for it previously and has supported it wholeheartedly on the campaign trail.
In contrast, Obama is opposed to Yucca Mountain — he doesn’t believe it is either safe or smart — and that opposition is critical now. The next president may be the only person who can stop the radioactive trucks and trains from coming to Nevada.
Last, it also is instructive how both Obama and McCain have run their campaigns. McCain has been erratic while Obama has displayed a cool confidence despite the McCain campaign’s efforts to rattle him with over-the-top negative attacks.
With respect to being erratic, last month McCain decided to temporarily suspend his campaign and go back to Washington, ostensibly to help bring about a compromise on a financial bailout bill Congress was working on.
All that did, however, was increase the partisan divisions on the legislation and help lead House Republicans to derail the budding compromise. It wasn’t until after McCain left Washington, and took his traveling circus with him, that Congress was able to fashion an agreement with the president. In many ways, McCain’s failed stunt came to symbolize his campaign.
As Americans consider who should be the next president, it is clear that we are at a crossroads. Americans are looking for someone who not only has a steady hand and is a consensus builder, but who also is a strong leader and who has faith in the greatness of what our nation has to offer even in these most trying of times. We believe that man is Barack Obama.
The Las Vegas Sun endorses Barack Obama.
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HEAR HEAR!! We see eye to eye.
Thank God, I just got dont reading LVBlahJ and was not shocked to find them sucking the Republican Tickets arse. After everything our state has gone through...
I will subscribe....
Well Done
My biggest fear of having Obama as president is that we have bred 3 generations of entitlement minded people and these folks are sitting around gleefully thinking they're about to hit the welfare windfall. What's truly sad is that these are the same people who probably never, ever vote and couldn't tell you one plank in Obama's platform if you gave them a cheatsheat.
Give out enough checks for $10,500 a year as welfare payments and call them tax cutes. The Obama plan that this paper seems to like. I don't think the rest of Nevada agrees this is the way to go. Nor are the higher gasoline prices that we get with harry Reids "no drilling here" attitude.
You have chosen wisely! Obama is both smart and inspiring. A far cry from inept idiocy of our current monarchy.
Glad I don't pay for your paper.
This morning Colin Powell endorsed Senator Obama. Newspapers including the Chicago Tribune, New York Times, and now the Las Vegas Sun have endorsed Senator Obama. This is too important to let race be an impediment to picking the best man for the job. Please, vote for Obama.
First, Obama will save America.
Obama will take from the rich and give to the poor. People who pay income taxes will pay higher income taxes so that people who pay no income taxes will get checks for $1,000's of dollars.
Obama is going to hand out welfare cash like it is candy.
Obama then is going to try to buy the middle class vote by giving them $1.95 more a day in middle class tax cuts over McCain's plan. $1.95 a day will bring much happiness in lives of Americans.
Every day, Obama is promising more tax cuts and spending plans. Obama will be the trillion dollar man. Obama will be the first president to generate trillion dollar annual budget deficits every year he is in office.
Next, Obama will save the world. Many leaders are excited about Obama being the world leader. Chavez, Castro and Hamas have given their support to this wonderful future leader. There will be joy and dancing in the streets in Iran, Palestine, Pakistan and Havana when Obama is anointed Messiah of the World.
While I'm still undecided, the media has decidedly focused on just 2 candidates. My ballot shows 6 running for president. Sadly and unfortunately, they are the forgotten ones. Where was the media on those other 4 candidates. Not giving them equal time, in my mind, is how narrow-minded everyone has become.
Like I said, I'm still undecided and the last box on Nevada's ballot just might get my vote if I still cannot decide who is going to represent me, and you, for the next 4 years.
Obama will turn our country into LITTLE MEXICO if we elect him. He has stated that he will give Illegals driver licenses. That is absurd!Since when do we reward criminals and give them gifts! If you elect OBAMA! BE AFRAID! BE VERY AFRAID!
Ho hum, another presidential election of voting AGAINST a candidate instead of FOR one.
McCain's tax plan -- especially regarding taxing health benefits and making it harder for small businesses such as mine to provide the health benefits we do -- is a massive failure to connect with the reality of modern America.
If McCain was half the candidate he was in 2004 he'd be ahead, but the Rove-ification of the campaign and the age of McCain combined with the ridiculous selection of Palin was the death knell. Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama hammers the final nail on McCain's opportunity.
In Nevada, there's always "None of the Above," but I just cannot stand by and let Palin be put in a position she has no business being in. Seriously, her candidacy is an insult.
What a surprise!!! Say goodbye to Israel if Obama wins.
Matois said: My biggest fear of having Obama as president is that we have bred 3 generations of entitlement minded people.
Unfortunately, we are essentially ALL entitlement minded. "Because I am alive now, I can burn as much fossil fuel as I want, I can have as many children as I want, I can destroy as much habitat needed by other species as I feel like today." Unfortunately, the entire world suffers from humans' belief in entitlement. And that includes humans' suffering too. We could all do with less, have fewer children, and save some of the natural resources for the (less populated) future generations. Future generations might ask "What were you thinking as you kept your homes at 75 degrees year round? You could have worn a sweater or sweated a little, rather than burning all the oil. What were you thinking as you caused all those animals to become extinct?" Our answer, "we were only thinking of ourselves."
Thank you LVSun. We agree with your endorsement of this thoughtful, compassionate man. And Thanks to Barack and Michelle who only had two children! PS: (We had no children)
Turning back Bill Clinton's welfare reform with a whole new entitlement program disguised as a tax cut is not the change we have been waiting for. From a radical community organizer teaching ACORN how to invade banks to get their way to political office Obama has always had to hide his real agenda. Here is his written review of Bill Ayers book, the review was published in the Chicago Tribune but had to found in microfilm archives in San Fransisco to see the light of day.
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=64
Practicalone, for the most part, I agree. But fossil fuel is not the problem. Overpopulation is the problem.
Do any of the righties here actually think for themselves? I can't find one right-wing comment here that didn't come right off of the Rush Windbag show.
Nobody, who actually thinks, cares about Ayers, ACORN, or anything else Rush says is important. Rush is not important, and neither is Sean, Billo, Savage or any of the other bigoted racist sexist hate-baiting entertainers.
Instead of filling your head with more bologna, come listen to the greatest president of the last century, Bill Clinton, today at Cheyenne HS. See you there!
Why do we want to turn back Clinton's welfare reform with a new entitlement program disguised as tax cuts to people that never pay taxes? Why is the SEIU in the tank for Obama from the beginning? Did you know the same man that started the SEIU also founded ACORN? Google it. Wade Rathke also founded the SDS in the 60's with his fellow radical Ayers. What is Obama hiding?
The Liberal Socialist Democratic today MUST ignore, deny and live in lying to themselves to vote as the Socialist Sun advocates.
Voter endorsemsnts from a newspaper which should have died off 20+ years ago.
The Sun owes its existence to the same type of socialism that "THE Messiah" pledges to bring to Amerika.
Yes, the Las Vegas Sun, part of the American capitalist system, wants to turn this into a socialist state. The only people who think that are right-wing nuts--i.e., some of the commenters here and R-J editors.
Now to Colin Powell. I'm a liberal Democrat. I have no respect for Powell other than as a soldier--certainly more than I can say for McCain. To me, the best way to explain Powell was in, of all things, "Mars Attacks!" when the African American general is on the phone to his wife, saying that he always knew that if he kissed up enough, he'd come out on top.
But that's how I feel. It is not how Republicans have felt. And what I have not seen here is how the Right-Wing Amen Chorus that thinks God speaks through Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly proposes to explain how Colin Powell could endorse a supposed sympathizer with terrorists. Which, by the way, Powell explained quite well on that embarrassment called "Meet the Press."
For Colin Powell at his age to sell his soul for a little power and recognition only goes to prove that age does not protect us from the ultimate foolishness.
Hidden under his flowery endorsement of Senator Obama, lies his imprimatur for unlimited abortions, which he fogged over. Notice likewise his (pro-abortion) concerning statement about two more conservative judges to the Supreme Court.
His undercutting of Gov. Sarah Palin, the poster person for "Right to Life" to be president again shines the head light on Gen. Powell's pro-unlimited abortion stance.
Gen Powell is another smooth talker with a hidden agenda.
May God have mercy on his soul!
I commend the editorial author for a cogent, reasoned endorsement. Your ink wasn't dry before we had to listen to attacks on the character of Colin Powell for his endorsement of Obama. The republicans have likewise slammed the endorsement of Obama by the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times. Their party has sunk very low and, I for one, will not soon forget the fear-mongering, and willful falsehoods in their desperate attempts to put an unstable McCain into the White House. He may have been a man of integrity long ago, but lost any claim to that in his grabbing, greedy, anger-filled lying aggressive efforts to gain a post to which he has no right because of his lack of character. We find ourselves in an economic crisis, the equal of which none of us can remember. The embers of this economic crisis alone will still be smoldering long after most of us have passed from this life; so grave is the hijacking of our monetary system and the ransacking of our treasury that the current "leaders" are still trying to blame on "greedy Americans". Instead of character assassination, McCain sycophants should be instructing him to vocalize to the American people how we can repair our infrastructure countrywide, how can we reclaim an intellectually bankrupt educational system from which only one third of our youth graduate from high school because, primarily, we don't even have in place a method to stop them. Parents aren't parenting; they leave a $20.00 bill on the kitchen counter with a note to call them on their cell. That's what's really meant when McCain says something is "just being called in". When did these parents honestly know what alternative to an education their child might involve themselves in through which they might gain a skill upon which they could base earning a living wage? McCain advisers should advise their candidate about introspection and realigning his moral compass if they feel he has any chance at all.
NVMakz, you are ignorant of the business realities of the printed word. The RJ itself is a failing newspaper. What will become of your theory when the RJ folds under the pressure of new media, as it will undoubtedly do?
I voted Reagan in 1984, and stood in line four hours to re-elect Clinton. I have always been registered as a non-partisan because I do not stand by the party lines of either. I am a free thinking rational voter and a Las Vegas libertarian. Powell is entirely correct when he says that the Republican party has been hijacked by radical social conservatives. McCain sold his soul to Rove and insulted me by selecting Palin. He essentially threw this election.
I'm hoping that a real, viable third party will emerge from what will soon be 12 years of divisive politicking.
I cannot believe the lies that the republican faithful take as gospel.
McCain and Palin probably have an IQ of 100...combined
Who would want to live next door to a Republican?
"But McCain's selection of Palin is now viewed as a disaster." She may not yet have embellished her reputation as a reformer, but yesterday on SNL she certained established her reputation as a "Trooper." SNL had its biggest audience in 14 years and the viewers weren't tuned in to see Baldwin. Remember, "Dewey Defeats Truman!"
"NVMakz, you are ignorant of the business realities of the printed word. The RJ itself is a failing newspaper. What will become of your theory when the RJ folds under the pressure of new media, as it will undoubtedly do?"
The RJ is not a "failing newspaper". Show me their declaration?
The Sun should have folded long ago - but if the RJ folds, the Sun folds with it, doesn't it?
I see the Sun's board monitors are deleting for content alone - now.
I wish the deleted comments were simply screened. I'd enjoy reading the idiocy.
Good for you, publicly endorsing Obama. I hope this year is a record turnout at the polls.
Big surprise, the most liberal leaning "newspaper" in Southern Nevada endorses the most liberal senator in Congress. I hope when Barack is elected, he raises the taxes on all the elites including the Greenspun Family! Poetic Justice Baby!
'Do any of the righties here actually think for themselves? I can't find one right-wing comment here that didn't come right off of the Rush Windbag show."
Rush and the others who work talk radio SUPPORT THEMSELVES IN THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS. Liberals are just envoius of their successes and wonder why their social communist spew can't reach that level of ongoing success. Jealousy, thy name is liberal!
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"Nobody, who actually thinks, cares about Ayers, ACORN, or anything else Rush says is important. Rush is not important, and neither is Sean, Billo, Savage or any of the other bigoted racist sexist hate-baiting entertainers."
Everybody in massive denial of the facts of Obama's past says this. It's as stock rank impotent insults that substitute for reality from the "left".
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"Instead of filling your head with more bologna, come listen to the greatest president of the last century, Bill Clinton, today at Cheyenne HS. See you there!"
Thanks for the laugh. Will Obama get all those corporations to cook their books, producing false phony "wealth" in order to balance the budgets? OH, that's right, the Democrat liberals in Congress have been forcing that situation re: Freddie/Fannie for 15 years. OOPS! That's around the time when Clinton assumed the Presidency, isn't it?
Book-cooking from corporations AND the beginnings of legislating massive bad debt AND Raines'/Johnson's book-cooking on to banks and the FMs = ALL done in the 90s and all blowing up on a (R) POTUS?
Say (with a straight face) it ain't so??
LOL on your screeding!
You've been endorsing Obama from the start. Too bad. You have completley abandoned your responsibilty to report and investigate both sides honestly and accurately. You just wrote the headline today. Journalism is dead in this country. You have every right to endorse, don't get me wrong, but you also have a responsiblity leading up to it.
What a hack job. There is nothing in this pablum that describes what Obama would actually do differently than McCain, no detailed description on changes he would make. You are embracing an unknown entity wholeheartedly while pretending to be thorough. Hacks.
Thank you Las Vegas Sun. You took the words right out of my mouth. It's like I was reading my own thoughts.
Show you the declaration of the RJs failing? All you have to do is look around you. Printed newspapers have been in decline for 20 years - and I learned how to read by reading the RJ and the SUN, and I was an RJ newspaper boy back when when newspapers were delivered by kids earning bowling money and not by parents earning diaper money. It's a simple fact - printed publications are dying a rapid death. The marketplace of ideas has moved to the Internet, and what a shoddy, amateur marketplace it is.
Bottom Line? McCain must be mentally unstable to pick someone like Palin to be his running mate, and for that reason (almost entirely), he lost my vote.
"Show you the declaration of the RJs failing? All you have to do is look around you. Printed newspapers have been in decline for 20 years - and I learned how to read....."
Thank you for proving yourself a bloviator here.
Of course, the issue was and is the Sun's leeching on the back of the RJ because under the laws (Joint Operating Agreement) and "intrepetations" which keep the Sun publishing. The Sun, as the marketplace decided, was selected out <20 years ago.
Bottom line: McCain never had your vote anyway, as I read you = "seminar poster"!!
Palin has more than Obama, except propaganda values and a communist-childhood-mentor/socialist-street organizing/racist-preacher/friend-as-felon background.
Palin is certainly much more than John Edwards, the 2004 (D) VP loser.
Democratics are leading with their inexperience this time around and we will ALL pay heavily for it.
If and when the LV newspapers yield to the so-called "new media" and die, the Sun would have had 20++ years of undeserved life.
"LOL on your screeding!"
Enjoy your laughing NVMakz. I just voted for Obama/Biden, and will be reveling in joy as the Dems take over the capitol this November.
BTW, aren't you supposed to BEEP after you do Rush's work for him?
As a Viet Nam vet, I look at history and the four years of WW II produced no less than seven Presidents that wore this country's uniform in the war. The seven plus years of Viet Nam has given us one President that wore the Country's uniform for a couple of months and one draft dodging liar lucky enough to ride the wave of the Dot Com revolution. Thanks America, just another spit-in-face for us Viet Nam Vets. We kind of expect it.
McCain never had my vote? You don't know me. And you are wrong. Grow up.
Also, I've been in publishing for 20 years. How long have you?
Obama will appoint Supreme Court Justices who most assuredly will take your guns.
LV Sun is in good company. So far 103 papers across the country have endorsed Obama. Papers endorsing McCain? 32.
This includes the Houston Chronicle and the Austin American Statesman who endorsed Bush in 2004.
Papers that have endorsed Republicans for years are now endorsing Obama. A fluke? I don't think so.
As William Buckley's son Christopher said, "I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me."
lol
wait til november babe.
surprise. surprise.
... BRAVO to my old rival newspaper, The Las Vegas Sun!?! Started my 35+ yr. print journalism career at the right-wing/GOP R/J in '73. Your original Publisher Hank Greenspun must-be-PROUD!!!
- Our daily here, The Bflo. News, endorsed Sen. Obama Sun. Joining BOTH Chicago newspapers, The Washington Post, Colin Powell, etc. YES WE CAN!!!
... Keep up the good work in S. Nevada!!!
President Obama: "Goodbye Israel. It was nice knowing you."
Face it, the Sun would endorse Joseph Stalin if he was the Democrat running against McCain.
Wow, what a bunch of bunk! It would be good to have an informed discussion. Clearly McPalin and Cain are not interested in the facts.
By that logic, republicans would've voted in Hitler.
Besides, Stalin was party secretary, and would never have run. He would have made a shadow organization within the country and then made himself leader by fiat.
Bravo, Las Vegas Sun! Well Done!
We do not need America ran in the same erratic, negative, and misleading way we have witnessed McCain/Palin run their campaign. McCain/Palin is a campaign of lies and hate and fear mongering; it has shown a campaign of angry, tortured rhetoric, and racial posturing. What a sad commentary to watch.
This is a time to vote for the future, to unite, to hold up our heads again, to hope and remember who we are as Americans, to say, "Yes, We Can! It is a time to create jobs and work to upgrade our infrastructure, to formulate a health plan that includes every one, to improve education that allows our youth to be competitive as global citizens. These are only a few of the things that Obama proposes with steady determination and responsible and focused leadership.
It is a time to rebuild America, to take care of our public lands, to look again at Yucca Mountain, and to prevent making Nevada a toxic dumping ground.
Obama offers this leadership. It is a time to move forward into the 21st century as one people. Obama offers that hope.
Every endorsement DOES matter. What will matter the most, however, is to vote. Every person is needed to make the change. Please Vote.
Rush and the others who work talk radio SUPPORT THEMSELVES IN THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS."
If by "IDEAS" you mean, lies, and if by "SUPPORT" you mean, make a living by spreading hatred, then yes, you are correct.
Otherwise, the notion that someone's financial success equates directly to their credibly is a complete non-argument and has nothing to do with what I said.
"Also, I've been in publishing for 20 years. How long have you?"
I guess I did not need 20 years to read the front section to know that the Sun rides on the RJ's back re:"Joint Operating Agreement" - and has had relatively undeserved life since 1989??
With even healthy newspapers struggling to survive against the "new media", why have the dead weight the Sun loads on the RJ's back? Atlas Shrugged!
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"johnevegas":
Quaint nic, but no "game" - noted. THAT's what I mean!
Thanks for playing!
Well, I'm ready for a re-distribution of wealth. I'm sick of seeing all the money in this country flow UP to the CEOs and hedge-fund managers, while they make decisions to depress wages for working people to create more profit for themselves! While I'm eating Ramen noodles, they are dining in luxury off our backs and hard work. You want to talk about socialism -- Republicans are the socialists - we own this country's financial system, thanks to Republican greed and incompetence. Liberal big spender? For eight years, Bush and the Republicans have been spending our money like it was water. We have gone from a manufacturing economy to a service economy to a CONSUMER economy, just to fill the pockets of the Robber Barons who ship job overseas to exploit the work of the poor and vulnerable in third world countries.
I'm sick to death of the Republican Party and their ideology, their hate-filled judgementalism, racism, their evil lying ways and their contempt for anyone who doesn't agree with their sick, skewed view of the world.
I pray OBAMA gets elected. I can't take any more of this.
Just received my "Obama loves terrorists" mailer from the Nevada GOP. Put it in the bottom of the birdcage. Seemed like the thing to do since it was already covered with scat.
Why is the GOP so angry? It's not our fault you guys elected (eh..hemmm...appointed) the worst president in the history of our country. You had your shot. Your guy sucks. Stop blaming other people for your horrible mistakes!
The time has come for dramatic change in our country. This not the time John McCain. 2000 was!
I believe in working hard and taking care of my family....I also believe in our Constitution. I believe it is my duty as an American to ensure I am self sufficient, and to ensure my children will be self sufficient when they are adults. I am a firm supporter of education and believe that our government has never gotten education policies correct.
While Obama appears on the surface to be a good person, I do not believe he can succeed as an effective President...in fact...NO ONE CAN. At least not until we all take a good hard look at ourselves and determine ways we can STOP taking and start contributing. We need to reform our government from the bottom up. Get rid of the fat laden bills our Congress produces, stand up for the things that matter and stop expecting someone else to take care of us. We should all start trying to be responsible for ourselves.
He's my choice for President too!
I'm on my way out to vote for him right now.
OBAMA/BIDEN '08/'12!!!
neiman1 Once again has demonstrated his ignorance regarding the issues. I guess giving the top 2% of Americans a million dollar tax rebate was the answer and lets not forget the billions given to fortune 500 corps who don't pay one dime in income taxes. Like Waren Buffett said if this is class warfare my class is winnind.And he now supports Obama. He could never figure out why his secretary paid more in income taxes than he did.This is the same baseless rant of Republicans of the last forty years.
And then his 'dril now' and attacks on Harry Reid. If we drilled now we would not see any oil for ten years. The sudden drop in oil prices from three months ago was not a result of 'drill now'. Neiman1 once agains should think before he posts,ignorance is bliss.
I guess one way to reduce oil prices is to reveal an ongoing effort of undermining our economy BY Democrats and liberals over the last 15+ years = just before an election.
Don't drill, undermine the whole economy = the Democrat Way!
Liberals would lose a war AND tank an economy; all for a few seats more. Despicable!
mikegino,It sure would help if Israel obeyed UN resolutions like the rest of the world, if they did there would be far less wars.
logic_should_rule, No they would endorse the Nazi Bush
mikegino,Same lying rant by right wing fascists about your damn guns that you have put out for decades and you still have you guns.Quit it.
Panapanda, I certainly do not consider Bush a war hero or honorable veteran.He was drunk and drugged out in Alabama hiding out per his daddy.
And another VietNam vet who has yet to learn the was no attack on an American ship in the Gulf of Tonkin.Your argument is baseless and thirty years old.That is exactly why America needs Obama and not 'bomb bomb Iran'.
NVMakz, Palin has it all dishonesty,corruption,a view of government like Darth Cheney,ethics conviction,complete ignorance bordering on stupidity,see's Russia from her back yard,morals,my kid can get pregnant and it is a ok but if your's does you are a sinner,talks in tongues and a dumb ass for a husband.Get real
jldour, Your telling someone else what to think.Typical right wing crap.
NvMakz, Are you impaired? Republicans lost Vietnam.If there was drilling today,even on the 86 thousand acres where oil can legally drill, there would not be a drop of oil for ten years. I suppose the sudden drop in oil prices over the last two months is a result of drilling?Lets just give big oil a few hundred billion more tax dollars to squander. You neocons just never quit with the lies.More Rush and OReilly stupidity.
",It sure would help if Israel obeyed UN resolutions like the rest of the world,"
Your ignoRANTZ of how often UN Resolutions are abided by is noted.
"right wing fascists"
Fascism is closer to Socialism on the political spectrum.
"NVMakz, Palin has it all dishonesty,corruption,a view of government like Darth Cheney,ethics conviction,complete ignorance bordering on stupidity,see's Russia from her back yard,morals,my kid can get pregnant and it is a ok but if your's does you are a sinner,talks in tongues and a dumb ass for a husband.Get real
jldour, Your telling someone else what to think.Typical right wing crap."
Senseless lib-rantz noted and laughing at you......
Juvenile lies and smears in the face of overwhelming counter-arguments against liberals seem to be an epidemic around here. The Democratic's lifeblood...
Try some cyanide! Your arguments will remain unaffected.
Fascism is a perversion of right wing politics, and belongs right of center. Ask an academic on the subject.
NvMakz, In the history of man there will never be a more consorted effort to undermine an economy as by the last eight years of Bush. I don't want ot hear about the last two years with the Democrats in power of Congress, that is misleading, they never once had enough votes to over ride a veto of the biggest idiot known to man. Undermine an economy. Where have you been?
NvMakz, Get some counseling. It is well noted by intelligent right wingers Palin was the big mistake for McCain.The bump at first and then the long ride down in the polls. I see from your juvenile responce you are simpleton. I am now done with you, go take your meds and call the doctor.
Unless the deleted comments contained vulgarities why are they even being deleted? Ever hear of freedom of speech LV SUN? This forum does more deleting than any other I've every purused. Just a bit biased are they?
"The biggest idiot know to man." "Muslim terroist..." Its starting to get ugly out there. In the famous words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
"NvMakz, Are you impaired? Republicans lost Vietnam."
Nope, you're delusional and in-denial of history! Democrats STARTED Vietnam,; Democrats kept adding more and more and more; liberals (overwhelmingly Democrat) undermined America in the streets (assisting the enemy in time of war?) and Democrats finally pulled funding which began the process of the deaths of millions in SE Asia, the Communist enslavement in the region and the Communists, supported by liberals in a war America won on the battlefield; but lost on American streets - started, undermined and finally capitulated-to-Communists - by Democrats.
There had to be a Republican President to blame Democrat undermining on. Nixon, who got America out, was the fall-guy for democrat's undermining of America.
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"If there was drilling today,even on the 86 thousand acres where oil can legally drill, there would not be a drop of oil for ten years. I suppose the sudden drop in oil prices over the last two months is a result of drilling?"
This has already been explained in fact and contextual accuracy. Try and think outside the "lead-helmet liberal" way? Your flailing is boring...
86 thousand acres?? lol! Nuff said!
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Lets just give big oil a few hundred billion more tax dollars to squander."
blah, blah, blah. Superficiality noted.
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"You neocons just never quit with the lies.More Rush and OReilly stupidity."
And, you haven't argued away a one of the salient points made by Rush and the others. They thrive in an arena which liberals die off, as they have for decades.
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"In the history of man there will never be a more consorted effort to undermine an economy as by the last eight years of Bush."
By liberals watering down mortgage requirements to force banks to meet racial quotas and force rotten loans on we all. By Democrats packing on the "Christmas Tree Ornaments" on every bill that comes down the pike?? It's been in the news, can you hear?
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I don't want ot hear about the last two years with the Democrats in power of Congress,"
I KNOW you do not. Denial works that way!
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"that is misleading, they never once had enough votes to over ride a veto"
Filibuster and a synchophant liberal media to lie for liberals....
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"Undermine an economy. Where have you been?"
In touch with the truth and context of the bad-debt campaign Democrat liberals have forced on America. Where have you been?
"Colin Powell...is showing that he will switch Parties simply to vote for a man because of the color of his skin"
I'll take the man at his word instead of the racist reasons you and Rush Winbag impose upon him. Just because he was forced to lie for Bush doesn't mean he's lying now.
I have great respect for this man. Always will. He is far more honorable than McCain, whom you blindly support.
I love how Makz still can't spell sycophantic, even though I've corrected him a few times. Or are you saying synchopatic, as in in time with a beat? Seriously, don't use big words if you can't spell them.
And we lost Vietnam. The enemy was more committed, and no matter how much we put in in resources, it would never had been enough. South Vietnam was corrupt, and unable to stand up for itself. It's a shame they ended up communist, but if they really cared, they would have stood up with us instead of entirely relying on us.
And there you go again of saying war opposition is treasonous, ie helping the enemy in a time of war.
Btw, how about the isolationist republicans who tried to get the US to pull out of WWII. Same rules apply, so stop your sad double standards on everything. I wouldn't mind your points if they were equally applied to reps, but you don't. Just another partisan hack.
If Powell's endorsement of Obama was based on the color of his skin, he would've done it months ago.
"I love how Makz still can't spell sycophantic, even though I've corrected him a few times. Or are you saying synchopatic, as in in time with a beat? Seriously, don't use big words if you can't spell them."
Honest mis-spelling criticisms are among the most pathetic of e-complaints. Welcome to - truly pathetic!
Link back to when you before - corrected my spelling of that word? What was your board nic then??
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And we lost Vietnam. The enemy was more committed, and no matter how much we put in in resources, it would never had been enough. South Vietnam was corrupt, and unable to stand up for itself. It's a shame they ended up communist, but if they really cared, they would have stood up with us instead of entirely relying on us."
The give-up/ give-in,/"they're just too tough/much/strong/whatever"(mq) attitudes which endanger we all lives on in "ferret". America won the battles, but liberals lost the war. Millions paid with their lives thrown into misery, death and piles-of-skulls = all for spinelessness.
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And there you go again of saying war opposition is treasonous, ie helping the enemy in a time of war.
Waaa, waaaa, waaa. Your boredom tour rolls on.
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Btw, how about the isolationist republicans who tried to get the US to pull out of WWII."
So what? What made you think this tiny?
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" Same rules apply, so stop your sad double standards on everything"
MY rules apply, it seems, as your steamrolling continues. Once WWII began big-time, about everyone got on board. A nation truly pulling together would never happen today, for the " liberal socialist derangement syndrome" (LSDs, again, lol) have shown all-out to corrode America "for a few seats more".
Oh, yeah, I forgot == QUAGMIRE, QUAGMIRE........
Red: We never lost a major engagement in Vietnam. That Democrat "Adventure" failed because the politicians in Washington were spineless and refused to adopt a strategy that would have brought NVN to its knees. Because Obama is a Pan Africanist, expect him to lead us into a similar "Adventure" in Africa.
Sorry if your memory is slipping Makz but I have, and you stated the same thing the time before. It's not my fault you can't spell fancy 3 dollar words. Just don't use them, that or find a way to link your spell checker to your browser. Not too sure how it happened on my computer, but it does. In any case, look up your own posts, or since I have fewer, look up mine for the correction. Up there with having to tell you the difference between fact and factoid.
And I can't help that you said "helping our enemies in times of war". What is treason, helping our enemies in a time of war. As said before, same rules apply. You back down there because you got caught. Deal with it. And the fact that you are so infantile to say MY rules apply. If you can't share, you can't play with others. If you don't like the idea of occassionally getting shown up, then don't play.
As for Vietnam, that was the sad part about it. We didn't lose many battles, but still lost the war via attrition. Oh, and wasn't there something called the Tet offensive. Besides people back home were tired of dying for a country, we honestly felt wasn't tied to our national security. Additionally, letting the rich not go versus sending the poor and disproportionately sending minorities was a bad idea. If there's a draft, we all have a shot, no matter how white/rich you are. Has the mighty communist nation of Vietnam attacked us since? NO. They are sitting there rotting on the vine like so many other commie countries, waiting to tip over.
"but still lost the war via attrition"...no we did not.
"Oh, and wasn't there something called the Tet offensive." This was a big victory for the USA. North Vietman was worried that they lost the war because they almost lost all their army in the south but Conkite saved them. It took North Vietman almost a full year to restore their troop levels in the south.
We lost that war because we had noboby in the Presidency that had any guts.
Obama will be another LBJ.
Red: We didn't lose ANY battles.
jf32: Jimmy Carter is a better match than LBJ for Obama.
Besides the obvious concern about the qualifications of Obama, this election is about which way the country will go. Socialism(Democrats) or Capitalism(Republicans).
Obama plans to give your hard earned tax dollars to 100 million American who do not have to pay taxes or do not have to file taxes. This is not a tax cut but a welfare cheque.
He does not want to give small or large businesses a tax break but wants to raise business and corporate taxes. This will never produce a single job.
He plans to give unions power similar to unions in Canada, which have destroyed Canada's auto and manufacturing industries. He wants to renegotiate the free trade agreements, because the unions with their ever increasing demands have made it harder for American corporations and small businesses to compete with global trading partners.
He wants to talk, with out any conditions to radical terrorists and dictators from Cuba, South America and Europe.
He wants to jump into a new and prolonged war of 10, 15 or 25 years in Afghanistan, without any time frame or exit strategy.
Barack Hussein Obama is a lawyer with no historical perspective, but with great rhetoric and hype of hope and change. He is social worker; a Junior legislator of less than 2 years, who votes present 40% of the time and votes 100% along party lines. He or Biden do not have a record of change. No change, with zero accomplishments.
The Obamas financed their house from a convicted money launderer, has a racist preacher as his spiritual adviser, associates with an unrepentant Williams Ayers a 60's radical who admits to bombings of government buildings. His wife, until recently was not proud of America. Not the time for an unqualified person or an on the job training program. Keep smiling"
BLETCHHHHHHH! Clark spot reposting the same lame nonsense. Headline if you've been under a rock for a month, the bail out passed. We're already in socialism with one foot. I'ld have a lot more respect for your opinions if you didn't appear to be a total spam bot.
For such a shriveled juiced-out loser in debate around here, who cares if you have respect for anyone??
Your cred is nil.
So, where is that spelling correction? Where is the fact/factoid dust you say you threw up....
What name did you post it under?
Hmmm......
Also, non-responsive to the facts of "peterclarke", as non-responsive as I've made you be!
Respect? That was a long time ago for you......
When you had some "game", lol......
As I said, I remember it. If you can't, that's your problem. Additionally I already told you if you can listen, to look at my posts and find it. You've done it before, and you said the same things. If you are too lazy to do it, just say so.
Anyway, McCain / Palin are stronger than Barry and Joey in every way but one. They do not have a synchophantic(sp) lying major media to pimp them every day - hey, the Socialist Sun for instance.
back in sept 24, 2008.
That factoid one, I forget where it was, but it was damn funny. If anything use phonics to sound it out and replace spelling as needed. Sick-o-fantic. No n in it.
"They do not have a synchophantic(sp) lying major media to pimp them every day - hey, the Socialist Sun for instance."
Really? You really think the media are pimping Obama? Sorry, I just don't see it. Though I do see Fox and Friends constantly badgering Obama and praising McCain.
Personally I think McCain and Palin are actually bad choices. McCain can't take the pressure and Palin's knowledge is simply pathetic. I can see Russia and a wink is supposed to convince me? Wow, you guys are really really shallow if that works for you.
Just remember John, I was just quoting.
shocker.
Obama has extenstive experience at ......hmmmmmm....uhhhhhhhh......oh yeah....teaching.
As a registered Democrat. I didn't really know enough about Sen. Obama to make an educated decision as to why I should cast my vote for him, which lead me to conduct my own research to find out more about who he really was, where he came from and, even more important, what he stands for.
After reading the following Amazon.Com Editorial Review and numerous other resources, as a means of educating myself prior to casting my vote, I became concerned about casting my vote for him.
AMAZON EDITORIAL REVIEW THAT SPARKED MY CONCERN AND/OR RESERVATION:
The Case Against Barrack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate (Hardcover) by David Freddoso (Author)
Review Is Contained On The Following Web Site:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product...
The following Points (1-4), which are NOT all inclusive because they are too numerous to list here, confirm that my concern has some MERIT:
POINT #1: Ties to ACCORN.
What Makes Obama Run?
Lawyer, teacher, philanthropist, and author Barrack Obama doesn't need another career. But he's entering politics to get back to his true passion--community organization.
Chicago Reader
By Hank De Zutter December 8, 1995
Article Is Contained On The Following Web Site:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/obama/95120...
POINY #2: Obamas Connection to Ayers and ACCORN.
Barrack Obama, William Ayers, and ACORN
Video Posted on October 19, 2008
Video Is Contained On The Following Web Site:
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008...
POINT #3: How Obama Uses Alinskys Rules to Out Maneuver His Opponents.
How Obama Applies Alinsky's Rules
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, September 22, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Election '08: Barrack Obama's mocking of John McCain, while urging his followers to "get in their face," are tactics right out of his radical hero Saul Alinsky's playbook: ridicule and agitation.
Article Contained On The Following Web Site:
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.asp...
POINT #4: Result of Obamas Application of Alinsky's Rules In NM.
Inside Politics: The New West.
Washington Times
Greg Pierce (Contact)Thursday, October 16, 2008
Article Is Contained On The Following Web Site:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008...
BOTTOM LINE: If my concern is, in fact, proven to have MERIT, which, tragically, the American public may NOT even discover until after this election is over and done with, all
I can hope and pray for is that my concern is unfounded and, if it is not:
"Good Bless Our United (Not Divided) States of America"
"FOOD FOR THOUGHT"
Very nicely reasoned endorsement, eerily echoing that of Gov. Powell. Since the Republican'ts are condemning Powell's endorsement as being made solely because he, like Obama, is black, I can only assume that your editorial board is comprised entirely of African-Americans who may have served our nation for decades but are incapable of making a reasoned assessment of the two candidates. ;-}
And thanks for highlighting the differences between the candidates' positions on Yucca Mountain. Nevadans -- perhaps more so than residents of other states -- have reason to really scrutinize McCain's promise to immediately commence construction of 45 nuclear power plants. How could you possible put together enough experts to safely construct and operate such plants when none have been built in the pat 30 years? I can just see the accidents as new "rookies" try to rush to build so many at once. Bad idea. Sure, we can develop them, but let's show some sense in rolling them out.
To WeroInNM:
First off, I don't believe for a nano-second that you are "a registered Democrat". Because any true "D" wouldn't take ANY of the following as sources of factual information:
- "Stop the ACLU"
- The Washington (aka Moonie) Times
- IBD Editorials
Second, not one word of what you posted was from the "Editorial Review" at that link. In fact, none of that was even from the publisher's own flap text. I can only conclude that the originator of this screed lifted it piecemeal from the CUSTOMER REVIEWS.
And we know how reliable they are, eh?
Third, the article from the Chicago Reader is dated 1995 and speaks to when he ran for the Illinois Senate. (Not to mention I highly and very seriously doubt you read that ten-plus page article.) Oh and ACORN only has one "C", not two.
Conclusion: what you posted reads an awful lot like an around-the-world email. You aren't fooling anyone. But the desperation we're seeing from the right wing borders on the hilarious.
Being in DENIAL represents your role here, "Patricia".
IBD, The Washington Times, "Stop the ACLU" = stronger information than HuffPo, DailyKos(sacks) and "Obama for America".
Liberalism is a mental disease! As time goes by, the truth of that statement becomes more "reliable".
Even Joe Biden says that America's enemies can't wait to test this political puppy with a "major international crisis". This is a common truth I've been trying to break through the "lead-helmet liberals" as they push this political kid, but lead is thick.
Is Joe Biden a "reliable" source? Why would he say such a thing if he didn't believe it was true?
The polling overall is tightening. The rabidity is palpable.
So many more words to still stay ..... nothing.
This should serve as the final word on the subject:
http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light....
Sorry, I did not take the time to read all posts here, so I am not sure if anyone has addressed the peculiarity of the Sun's endorsements. Something is amiss. Almost all liberals for the Legislative branch; almost 50/50 for the Judicial branch?
http://nevadapoliticsbydan.blogspot.com/...
Please consider another thoughtful endorsement of Barack Obama: http://www.economist.com/opinion/display...
The Economist is by no means a partisan or extreme publication. For example, it endorsed Bob Dole over Bill Clinton in 1996.