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twitterEdwards message: Louder this time
Candidate vows not to be overshadowed in Nevada
Leila Navidi
Presidential hopeful John Edwards, who is looking to Nevada for his first win, greets supporters after a town hall meeting at the Henderson Convention Center on Thursday. Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, has been using his underdog status to motivate supporters.
Friday, Jan. 18, 2008 | 2 a.m.
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Originally aired Wednesday, January 16, 2008.
Supporters and journalists surround John Edwards during an appearance Wednesday at the Steelworkers union hall in Henderson. The union has endorsed the former senator from North Carolina.
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John Edwards has been called the sleeper candidate, the stealth candidate -- he may even be the forgotten candidate.
Democratic presidential candidates Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama are the historic ones -- seeking to be the first woman or the first black man to become president. Plus, she’s got the pedigree, he’s got the charm and the media love a sensational story. Studies show they’re getting most of the attention.
“For a year now the national media has been telling the voters there are only two candidates,” Edwards said matter-of-factly Wednesday night at a union rally. “What I know is, when people hear both the passion with which I speak and the things I believe in, they move in my direction. So the challenge is to get heard. And I have to make certain that I get heard, and it’s remarkable how much of a fight that is.”
Not that Edwards hasn’t been working the state. He has dozens of paid staff and a solid corps of dedicated precinct captains. His people said he’s been here 17 times -- more than any other candidate -- and talked up the early endorsements from the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America and the United Steelworkers Union, which provided time to build the framework for a strong caucus finish. Volunteers -- many flown in after Edwards’ second-place finish in Iowa -- have been calling and visiting Nevada caucusgoers for weeks. Union members say they’re motivated and planning to turn out Saturday.
But Edwards lost the two biggest prizes -- endorsements by the Culinary and the Service Employees International Union. So no one in his camp is talking about a win here. Edwards wasn’t scheduled to hang around after Friday.
But there are factors working in his favor and supporters say he’s impossible to dismiss in Nevada. Edwards’ campaign is banking on fervent support from environmentalists and socially liberal party activists.
“He conveys a more aggressive progressive agenda,” said Hugh Jackson, a blogger at the influential liberal Web site lasvegasgleaner.com who has endorsed Edwards.
Edwards’ campaign hopes these activists -- the ones who read position papers and compare differences on alternative energy policies -- will make up a large percentage of caucusgoers. Additionally, Edwards’ populist message resonates with Nevada’s working class. Edwards has walked picket lines and campaigned in Nevada for the AFL-CIO last year to raise the minimum wage.
Edwards was the first to propose a universal health care plan. He advocates a significant increase in the minimum wage and would tie it to inflation. He’s called for labor laws that would strengthen unions’ hand against management.
And, he’s called for a more rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, eliminating all American presence within 10 months. That’s a more aggressive withdrawal strategy than has been offered by his chief opponents.
Edwards was much more of a centrist in the Senate. He voted to authorize President Bush to use force against Iraq. (He apologized for that vote in 2005.)
On the hustings, Edwards, now leaner and more angular than in his failed 2004 vice presidential run, looks unburdened, liberated from having to thread the centrist needle. He seems to enjoy his new lefty impulses, even if they come with great weight on his shoulders.
Edwards, who lost a son before his election to the U.S. Senate in 1998, helped his wife recover from breast cancer after his failed 2004 vice presidential bid, only to have her learn of its crushing return last year. They went ahead with his run anyway.
Speaking to a lunch-box-and-Thermos crowd at the carpenters union hall Wednesday, Edwards -- preppy in his bluejeans, blue blazer and button-down shirt -- was attired more for the picnic-basket-and-Perrier set.
He engaged them with his personal story of growing up in a family of millworkers and, as an attorney, championing Everyman.
Unlike the other two candidates, he says, he is not beholden to corporations and special interests. He refers to his competitors as “celebrity candidates” who run “$100 million campaigns.”
“Nothing will change if we exchange a bunch of corporate Republicans for corporate Democrats,” Edwards said to carpenters’ applause.
He uses his underdog status to motivate supporters.
“We’re going to create a tidal wave of change that moves across this country, that cannot be stopped,” he shouted above the din of cheers at the union hall. “And when it’s over, we will be able to look our children in the eye and say, ‘We did for you what our parents did for us. We made certain that you have a better life than we had.’”
The carpenters erupted into a chant: “Go, John, go! Go, John, go!”
“We’re not rich people,” said Eugene Costa, gesturing to the union hall. “We need someone to fight for us. All the other candidates help rich people.”
To be sure, Edwards isn’t met with full houses everywhere he goes in Las Vegas. Tables were still available Tuesday morning at The Egg & I, a cafe on Sahara, about five minutes before Edwards arrived for a publicized visit.
Some commentators have wondered why Edwards is still in the race.
But political blogger Jackson notes that Clinton was virtually declared dead after losing in Iowa.
“Given the spectacular success of conventional wisdom, as demonstrated in New Hampshire, it’s perfectly understandable he’d want to stick around for another contest or two,” Jackson said. “If nothing else, this year has proved that politics are unpredictable.”
Sun reporters J. Patrick Coolican and David McGrath Schwartz contributed to this story.
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After Obama's insane praise of Reagan yesterday, it's clear that he was just too young in the 80's to understand the damage that Reagan did. Don't forget the firing of the air traffic controllers, for starters. I'm for Edwards all the way. By supporting Obama, the Nevada labor unions are slashing their own throats. Bye, Bye, Barack.
John edwards is all about change...changing his mind that is!
John Edwards is the candidate who voted for the Patriot Act, but campaigns against it.
Voted for No Child Left Behind, but campaigns against it.
Voted for the China trade deal, but campaigns against it.
Voted for the Iraq war … and campaigns against it..
Voted for the Nafta … and campaigns against it..
did this guy get anything right in his short stink in the senate?
He also campaigns for the average working man as he goes home to his 28,000 square foot house in North Carolina!
I cant believe anything this guy says....
To Hillary08.... very nice sentiment, but that's all it is. As Elizabeth Edwards told Chris Matthews, we fought the battles of the 60's so that everyone would have an equal chance in business, politics, etc. Voting for Clinton because she's a woman makes no more sense than voting for Edwards because he's a man.
No. I'm voting for Edwards because he's hands down the best, most progressive candidate in the race. Thanks to the Las Vegas Sun for finally giving him some coverage - if the networks, cable news outlets, etc. would only follow your lead, we wouldn't be hearing that Edwards is the underdog. He'd be the frontrunner because the more people hear his message, the more support he gets.
Don't let the MEDIA decide our Democratic candidate! Go to JohnEdwards.com and to Clinton & Obama's sites too. Do your own research. When you do, you'll see that we need John Edwards as President.
Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.
Oh, my.... Gamblndan... I guess when you're intent on trashing one candidate, it's inconvenient to get your facts straight. Let me help.
I'm really impressed that John Edwards was able to to vote for NAFTA, considering he wasn't a Senator at the time.
And a total of 83 Senators voted for NCLB in the mistaken belief that the Bush Administration would fully-fund and implement it as written. Instead, they pushed it off to the states as an unfunded mandate that has failed. NUMEROUS supporters oppose it now because Bush didn't keep his word.
Same with the Iraq War - Senators foolishly thought they could trust the US President and his administration to tell the truth about such an important matter as going to war.
China trade --- broken record here... if the Bush Administration won't enforce trade deals fairly, then they need to be canceled.
I'd much rather have a president who makes the best decision he/she can with the information available and, if that policy isn't working, is flexible enough and smart enough to do a course correction.
Haven't we had enough of stubbornness and false choices in the past 7 years?
"There's a wall around Washington and we need to take it down. The American people are on the outside. And on the other side, on the inside, are the powerful, the well-connected and the very wealthy.That wall didn't build itself or appear overnight. For decades, politicians without convictions and powerful interests gathered their bricks and their stones and their mortar, and they went to work. They went to work to protect their interests, to block the voice of the American people, and to stop our country's progress. They went to work to protect, defend, and maintain the status quo.
"You have a choice in this election. You have to decide what kind of person you want as your next president. Do you want someone who is going to pretend that wall around Washington isn't there, or defend the people who helped build it? Or do you want someone who is going to lead with conviction and tell you the truth, and have a little backbone? Do you want someone who is going to hope that the people who spent millions of dollars and decades building that wall, and have billions more invested in keeping it up, are going to be willing to compromise, to take it down voluntarily? Or do you want someone who is going to stand up to those people and fight for your interests, when the chips are down, when your backs are against the wall, every single day?
"We have a choice in this election. We can keep trying to shout over that wall. We can keep trying to knock out a chink here and there, to punch little holes in it and hope our voices get through. We can settle for baby steps, half-measures and incremental change, and try to inch our way over that wall and toward a better future. Or we can be bold and knock it down. …
-John Edwards, DNC Fall Meeting
Knock Down That Wall! Don't vote the status quo and vote in another corporate Democrat.
Make a statement tomorrow and caucus for John Edwards.
The total number of delegates for the Democratic National Convention is 4,049 delegates. Currently, Obama has 25, Hillary has 24 and Edwards has 18. It is NOT a foregone conclusion that the race has been decided and that the choice is only between Obama and Hillary. DO NOT BELIEVE THE MEDIA HYPE. Both Obama and Hillary are too divisive to be an effective candidate.
Bring back some sanity and civility to this race by choosing John Edwards.
Part of being a feminist is to recognize that we have been fighting for the best PERSON--not just a woman or a minority. Edwards is so clearly the best PERSON to be President that I am still astounded that the media virtually ignores him. I hope Nevadans have the courage to use their new caucus system to show the U.S. that Edwards is the best candidate and that he then goes on to take South Carolina, the Democratic nomination and finally the Presidency. I'm really tired of Democrats picking candidates who can beat other Democrats instead of picking candidates who can beat Republicans. Look at the polls!!! Hillary can't beat the lowest ranked Republican candidate. Obama can only beat the two lowest ranked Republicans and John is shown as beating EVERY Republican Presidential candidate. Doesn't that tell us something?
Edwards needs to stay in the race to give issue oriented voters a choice.
He's an issue driven candidate---- Hillary and Barack care about issues but a large part of their appeal is their symbolic appeal. John is focused on substantive change---- not proving he is worthy.
I like Edwards - but what Sen Russ Feingold says below is true - and is cause for concern (from Politico)
January 18, 2008
Read More: John Edwards
Feingold: Edwards is running on my record
MyDD's Jonathan Singer caught this harsh passage in an interview with Russ Feingold:
"The one that is the most problematic is (John) Edwards, who voted for the Patriot Act, campaigns against it. Voted for No Child Left Behind, campaigns against it. Voted for the China trade deal, campaigns against it. Voted for the Iraq war … He uses my voting record exactly as his platform, even though he had the opposite voting record.
When you had the opportunity to vote a certain way in the Senate and you didn't, and obviously there are times when you make a mistake, the notion that you sort of vote one way when you're playing the game in Washington and another way when you're running for president, there's some of that going on."
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DON'T LET EDWARDS BE THE NADER OF THESE ELECTIONS FOR OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is much more progressive than Clinton, and yet he still appeals to many more Independents and Republicans than Clinton. If we want to get things done in DC, the right way, Obama is the one who has a history of creating the working majority necessary to accomplish it -- be it social security, medicare, a meaningful energy policy, enhanced natl security to real health care and a vibrant economy. Clinton's campaign continues to spread ridiculous and misleading information about Obama, which is just a signal that the old guard is threatened and is fighting for the position it feels entitled to. Long time loyalties to the family from Arkansas should give way to a true movement of change that isn't based on partisan politics. Vote your conscience. Vote Obama.
Why Hillary is more electable than any other democrat?
Watch the interview with the African-American Sen. Charles Rengel at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
Full address:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/vi...
Skywater no need to yell (CAPS).
John Edwards was a candidate before Obama. He is the original change candidate. Obama seems to have taken most of his playbook from John Edwards. His celebrity appeal is what is helping him at this point. For me, Obama has taken votes from Edwards.
What also bothers me about Obama is his new strong arm tactics that resemble the other media celebrity running in this race.
"Just three weeks ago Senator Obama was calling on me and Senator Clinton to demand that outside groups not run ads on our behalf. These new ads look like the same old nasty divisive politics that both Senators Obama and Clinton denounced just two days ago. It is extremely important for us to quit focusing on fights between politicians and instead focus on what we need to do for working people, for the Latino community in Nevada and across the country." -John Edwards on the UNITE HERE radio ads.
I'm a latino voter and I thing that el amigo Edwards is the best candidate out there yet. Love his policies on energy and his plan to help this wonderful nation to get out of poverty.He was the first one to propose a universal health care plan, and his immigration plans are totally what people is expecting for the next president to do. Therefore I'm totally with el amigo Edwards. El amigo esta conmigo!! El amigo esta conmigo!!
Always beware of the sleeper candidate, but history says Obama will win. www.WhyTheDemocratsWillWinIn2008.com
Well I can stand beside
Ideals I think are right
And I can stand beside
The idea to stand and fight
I do believe
There's a dream for everyone
This is our country
There's room enough here
For science to live
And there's room enough here
For religion to forgive
And try to understand
All the people of this land
This is our country
From the east coast
To the west coast
Down the Dixie Highway
Back home
This is our country
That poverty could be
Just another ugly thing
And bigotry would be
Seen only as obscene
And the ones that run this land
Help the poor and common man
This is our country
From the east coast
To the west coast
Down the Dixie Highway
Back home
This is our country
The dream is still alive
Some day it will come true
And this country it belongs
To folks like me and you
So let the voice of freedom
Sing out through this land
This is our country
(John Mellencamp, Our Country Lyrics)
This country belongs to me and you!
Caucus for John Edwards tomorrow!
Gamblndan wrote:
"John Edwards is the candidate who voted for the Patriot Act, but campaigns against it.
Voted for No Child Left Behind, but campaigns against it.
Voted for the China trade deal, but campaigns against it.
...
Voted for the Nafta … and campaigns against it.."
Excuse me Gamblndan but you might try a little less misinformation when you post your next assault.
Try getting the history straight.
The votes on NAFTA and China PNTR took place BEFORE John Edwards was a member of the US Senate.
Almost every Democrat in the Senate voted for no child left behind because it promised additional aid to public schools. Other flaws have emerged since. Most Democratic Senators, even those who originally supported the act now want it changed. John Edwrads also wants it changed.
So I have to ask what you do with new information Gamblndan?
Do you continue to support flawed policy or change your position?
Inasmuch as the Patriot Act is concerned it was passed with only 1 or 2 dissenting votes. It was passed in the panicky days immediately after 9/11.
And about that big house, I should point out that John Edwards lived more of his life like an average American than any other candidate in either party. Edwards earned that big house.
Apparently you would have attacked both Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy because they lived in big houses and how about that wealthy trial lawyer who owned a fine mansion in Springfield who was elected in 1860, you gonna attack him too?
Your erroneous, misleading comments are what we would expect from a Republican.
John Edwards is the only legitimate Democrat running for the nomination. This country needs, more than anything else, a real Democrat in the White House.
I've spent year after year barely making it and watching those around me eke out a living, praying that nothing goes wrong. I have a friend whose car won't go more than 25 mph so she leaves for work at 5 am. She can't afford the repairs. I have another friend who hasn't been able to afford groceries this week. I have a tooth that broke in half a couple of months ago. I have insurance but I don't know when I'll have the $200 copay to spare.
We're all college educated. We all work 2+
jobs, 70 hour weeks. It's crushing out there - the feeling like you're barely staying afloat and that there's no relief in sight. The feeling that the rest of your life is going to be spent swimming in circles, knowing that one financial blow could drown you.
I have felt hopeless for a long time. John Edwards has given me hope. I didn't think that any politician would stand up to any corporation as long as he/she could make a buck. His campaign has actually made me feel more valuable than big business. I had given up on that. I care again and feel like I matter in this country. The difference that makes is indescribable.
To AW:
Could you please post the link to the Politico article about Feingold's thoughts on Edwards? I don't necessarily trust Politico's reporting and want to see for myself......
Thanks
To Hillary 08 and other Hillary Supporters: It won't be long before another woman is a contender for President. Don't let the urgency fool you. Hillary might be a woman, but she is the WRONG woman this time around. Google Cynthia McKinney and check her out! and then tell me women are not showing up!
Chris Matthews of MSNBC came out for the debate and had to be given a lesson in how to pronounce Nevada, and we have been a state since 1864! Afterwards he proclaimed Clinton the victor. Many will not caucus because of what he said. He spent quite a while last night apologizing to Hillary for being "mean". When is he going to apologize for taking away the voice of the West. He can stay back East and just stay out of Nevada from now on and that goes for Russert too. Oh, and someone tell Keith how to pronounce Culinary. What a bunch of elitist dopes! I wish everyone who is tired of the media telling us who the winners are before we get a chance to vote would please causus for John Edwards. The Republicans want so much to run against Hillary Clinton they are practically foaming at the mouth on the Fox network.
To be fair, Edwards wasn't in office when NAFTA passed. That said, he was on record for keeping NAFTA, albeit renegotiating it somewhat, and he also voted to give China permanent favorable access to the US market, despite its horrible human rights and labor record, which is arguably an even bigger issue.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/12/11...
Send this link to everyone you know who votes. Americans and our media seem that this is a two person race. They are dead wrong. Some them that Edwards is the best candidate in the GENERAL ELECTION!!!
On the Democratic side, Edwards performs best against each of the leading Republicans. In addition to beating Huckabee by 25 percent and McCain by 8 percent, the North Carolina Democrat beats Romney by 22 percentage points (59 percent to 37 percent) and Giuliani by 9 percentage points (53 percent to 44 percent).
"Edwards is the only Democrat who beats all four Republicans, and McCain is the only Republican who beats any of the three Democrats," Holland said. "Some might argue this shows that they are the most electable candidates in their respective parties.
JohnEdwards2008andbeyond,
Your reference is outdated... Read CNN more often.
Edwards is a looser, a negligable entity.
Hillary is best positioned to win against any Republican.
I am supporting John Edwards all the way. He is the only candidate whose purse strings belong to the American people. I don’t want a corporate backed candidate who will act as a negotiator between the corporations and the American worker. This is not the time to “hope” for change….this is not time to “work” for change” this is the time to act! John Edwards is the only candidate who has placed himself in a position to act. He is truly running on the peoples ticket…true democracy.
This is the time to act, as our economy continues to decline. Many blue collar jobs have gone overseas or across the border, many white collar jobs are following, yet these corporations continue to make record profits, leaving the American worker headed for financial disaster. Private war corporations like Halliburton, KBR, Titan, Blackwater, and the “big boys of oil” etc. continue to collect their blood money, their greed is endless! They have become very, very powerful, this must end. Tax loopholes must end. Laws need to be enacted to penalize corporations who abandon American ground in search for cheap labor, not reward corporations for moving! Companies winning no bid contracts for private war corporate profits must end!
Many average Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and many more stand to lose their jobs and will lose their homes. Gasoline prices continue to soar. The housing market continues to decline. Goods continue to rise. Homelessness is up. Those without health insurance continues to rise. The dollar continues to decline. I hate to sound like an alarmist, but we are in trouble folks, we need someone who will act on behalf of the American people. John Edwards message is not being heard. The Democrats running on the backs of the corporations who have given millions of dollars to them are certainly looking for more favors after the election. We don’t need another corporate politician negotiating on behalf of the corporations, we need a president for the people by the people….there is only one candidate running on that ticket…and that is John Edwards!
Listen carefully to Obama, he talks beautifully and says nothing.
Listen carefully to the Clintons, they will say absolutely anything to get back into the Whitehouse. Hillary Clinton talks about all she's done for women and children, but all I see are women and children in no better shape than they were before Bill took office. Remember welfare reform?
Listen carefully to John Edwards. He actually does spell out what he will do. People try to use his trial lawyer experience against him. Hmmm... Hillary failed the DC Bar. I don't think she can fight for anyone without her husband's (sic) counsel.
Vote for John Edwards. He's not a token.
Edwards is the spoiler for both Hillary and barack. That said, please caucus for obama and bring a friend tomorrow @ 11 am.
In response to rem123:
Edwards is in this to win. That said, please caucus for Edwards and bring several friends. You won't be sorry. Edwards will give the government back to us.
Edwards is the only candidate opposed to building more nuclear power plants. Obama takes money from a nuclear power company called Exelon and supports building more nuclear power plants. Do you think the toxic wastes are going to be disposed of in Illinois?
www.johnedwards.com
Caucus for Edwards!!! He is the only REAL candidate, the others are only words. He has shown action!! The 2 largest unions in NV waited to make their endorsement to see who was winning to back a winner. At the end of the day, Edwards is the candidate that will be there for the hard working american! Please don't join the bandwagon!!!!!
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Katy,
Does it bother you at all that Reverend Wright, Osama's reverend, mentor and best friend said two days after 9/11 that the attacks were deserved?
You always post your BS but you never answer this question.
Does it bother you at all that Reverend Wright, Osama's reverend, mentor and best friend said two days after 9/11 that the attacks were deserved?
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_Chu...
John Edwards has been the real leader in this democratic campaign. He was the first with a healthcare plan, first with a plan to streamline our military and improve our support for our military service people and families, he was the first to present a plan to strengthen the economy, and the first to call for bringing all combat troops home from Iraq. Often Edwards has ideas first, and then a couple of weeks later one of the other candidates is shown all over television saying the same thing. Edwards stands up and speaks out and does not wait for polls to tell him what to say. He speaks the truth, and will continue to speak out for us and fight for us as president. This man went all around the country fighting state by state for an increase in minimum wage, and often won. Now he is fighting for another increase that is tied to the economy. Others have jumped onto this issue only recently. Edwards is the visionary candidate in this contest. He is the one who understands regular Americans, and will never forget the poor and the elderly either.
I urge you to caucus for John Edwards.
Congressional Dems lining up to endorse Obama prove he's a DC insider.
Those Senate Dems especially love them some donations from lobbyists - and know Obama (and Hillary) will continue the Corporate Welfare and business as usual in DC.
Obama's lobbying "reform" bill is more proof that lobbyists STILL control DC - because lobbyists are making just as much standing at the table as they were seated.
Washington and corporate lobbyists have funded Obama's and Hillary's political careers!
Lobbyists endorsing Obama and Hillary...
http://www.rollcall.com/politics/kstendo...
John Edwards is NOT on the list because he's never taken a dime from a Washington lobbyist!
John Edwards centered his campaign on CHANGE - and now OTHER candidates from both parties are emulating him.
I would support a woman as a candidate but Hillary is not the right woman. I agree with ladym.
Obama and Clinton have realized that Edwards has the right message and have tried to add his issues to their campaign.
More than a third of the country is living a standard of living that is not what we used to call middle class. Poverty should not have such a stranglehold on this country. John Edwards can see that. He is a candidate with vision.
Don't let mainstream media choose for us!
Support Edwards.
Corporations control:
the media
the media pundits
the news
the presidential debates
the polling
the voting machines
And yet - Nevada unions endorsed 2 candidates who voted for 2 NAFTA trade deals that NO labor orgs supported!
2 candidates promoted by the CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA 24/7 throughout this primary season.
Did unions really think the CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA would promote John Edwards who walked picket lines with union workers in 2006 to place minimum wage on ballots in 6 states??
ha!
The unions will get the CORPORATE OWNED president they deserve.
But we're voting for John Edwards!
Mark - Edwards voted for the 2000 China deal - but it had U.S. oversight!! which Bush has ignored.
Edwards is not to blame for that!
But look at the judgment of these 2....
During the past 18 months - Obama and Hillary have voted FOR 2 NAFTA trade deals (Peru and Oman) with NO labor or environmental standards - and NO labor orgs supported!
Who was denied, Who died, today?
Edwards is the only one who will fight the ,blood soaked, criminals, who run the "American" health care system.
Why aren't the executives of these insurance companies arrested for their criminal business plans.
Either vote Edwards or bear responibility for supporting the criminal deaths of thousands of Americans, who have paid for insurance, but get cheated by the insurance companies.
Wake up America, this may be our last chance to resist corporate Fascism.
Resist or submit.
No more Bushes! No more Clintons!
No more Monicas! NO dynasties!
Oh - and no more COCAINE, Obama!
John Edwards will be a great President - with a FAITHFUL wife of 30 years!
Difference in Clinton and Obama - I don't see much of one and neither apparently does Jonathan Alter.
As far as Clinton there isn't truly much difference with her position and Obama's. According to Jonathan Alter (Newsweek)Obama started by being an oranizer for Clinton in get the vote out for IL. On the show Alter went on to say that there is much about Obama that many do not know, that he is more like Clinton than any other.
Alter who has known Obama for 8 years, called Obama the "third way candidate" that he is one like the "new democrats".
Do you know about the "third way"? Do you know about the "New Democrats"? Do you know about the connection to the DLC for both "third way" and "new democrats"? If not maybe you should.
The "third way" was great for Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, and I think we all know Hillary is a DLC leader now. The New Democrats are a spin off from the DLC.
SO you tell me the difference in voting for Clinton or Obama? To me there is none, or not enough of one to matter.
http://www.dlc.org/
http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?cont...
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ka.cfm?kaid=128...
http://www.house.gov/tauscher/ndc/
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=85&a...
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid...
"It has won enthusiastic support from internationalist Democrats in Congress. Rep. Greg Meeks (D-NY), who chairs the DLC's newly launched Global Economy Project, called the accord "a monumental accomplishment," and said that "Chairman Rangel's leadership paves the way for bipartisan cooperation on trade and greater access to new markets for American goods and services." New Democrat Coalition leaders agreed, with Rep. Joe Crowley (D-NY) calling it "a major breakthrough that reflects our commitment to the American worker, environmental concerns, and our economic ability to compete globally," and Ellen Tauscher (D-CA) terming it "exactly the kind of forward-thinking trade policy we need."
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John Edwards is the leader on the issues, has set the entire agenda for this primary pushing Clinton and Obama to join in the discussion. Edwards is the one that has had "change" part of his platform from the begining long before Clinton or Obama ever announced their run.
People - understand that John Edwards is the candidate that fights for the average individual citizens.
I will vote for John Edwards.
THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...
THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...
THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...
THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...
THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!
I'm a Democrat, but I swear to god if Clinton wins the primaries, I'm voting for a Republican in November. Obama 08
I just cannot believe that people do not even see John Edwards! He is the most viable democratic candidate, not just one you choose to show how poitically correct you are. He has experience, and most importatly, passion about bring true change to working class America, as he said at a gathering in northern Nevada last Thursday, "It is very personal to me".
He fought and won to increase minimum wage and will again. Edwards will increase the reward for working by raising the minimum wage to at least $9.50 an hour by 2012 and then indexing it, tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) for adults without children and cutting the EITC marriage penalty. In 2001, a $1 increase in the minimum wage alone would have lifted an estimated 900,000 people out of poverty.
Don't forget John Edwards just because he doesn't have a billion dollars to sink into his campaign like the other 2 democrats. To me that shows he is running on pure passion of his commitments.
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(1/18/08 at 4:57 a.m) is FALSE and/or misleading, and verifiably so.
- Edwards did not vote for NAFTA - he wasn't even in office when NAFTA was voted on. These are desperate statements. Additionally, he voted *aganst* free trade acts with Chile, Singapore and Africa.
- Edwards did not vote for a "China trade deal" - he voted for the China Nonproliferation Act, which is to *suspend* trade with China for selling particular weapons types and to particular countries.
- yes, Edwards voted for Iraq - so did 97 of the other 98 senators who voted on that issue, including your hero Hillary Clinton. And in '04, Obama publicly stated open support for Bush's decision to go to Iraq, too.
- NCLB? Sure - along with 90 other senators, including Hillary Clinton. No Child Left Behind has been junked in its operation, which isn't the way it was supposed to operate, and which isn't the way 91 senators approved it. Don't like it? Blame the Bush administration.
- PATRIOT Act? That passed unanimously one month after 9/11. Hillary CLinton voted for it, too. She also voted to approve its renewal in 2006. As for the way its been used since 2001? Blame the Bush administration.
- and his house? How big do you say it is? How desperate are you? This same tactic was used in scam emails against Gore in 2000, and again in 2004 against Kerry. I didn't think anyone would be so stupid to believe it again in 2008, but apparently you are - or at least you think WE are - and we're not.
If you dislike John Edwards, at least provide factual and relevant reasons why.