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twitterDemocrats toughen up
Leading candidates crib from the Republican playbook
Chris Morris
Friday, Jan. 18, 2008 | 2 a.m.
MSNBC Debate Spin Room Reaction
Democratic campaign leaders put their spin on the debate. (En Espanol: Reacción al Debate de MSNBC)
Outside Support
Some of the most interesting sights and sounds of the Democratic presidential debate didn't come from Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, or Barack Obama on the inside of the Cashman Center. Instead the trio's supporters, along with a large legion of Dennis Kucinich backers, made their views, votes, and vocals known on the outside.
Hanging out at the debate
Not everything surrounding the Democratic debate happened inside Cashman Center Tuesday night. In fact, supporters for all three top Democrats, as well as a healthy segment of Dennis Kucinich backers, vocalized their thoughts about the debate inside and the 2008 presidential race. (En Español: La gente y el debate)
(Sun new media intern Jenna Kohler contributed to this report.)
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After wearing helmets while riding in tanks and being for things before being against them, the party of the late response and the lame attack ad has learned how to do politics this election.
Democratic presidential candidates, having split victories in New Hampshire and Iowa, are using every tactic available here in Nevada.
To wit:
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign had a story it wanted to tell this week, so it turned to a friendly blogger. Taylor Marsh, who in the past has been paid by a union now backing Clinton, quickly ran with the story: Members of the Culinary Union were being intimidated to vote for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, whom the union endorsed last week.
Under scrutiny, the story didn’t exactly pan out. But no matter.
Thursday, the Clinton campaign put out a statement expressing “concern” about “news reports” of “voter intimidation” -- media reports that were the campaign’s own doing and all came back to Marsh, as well as a Sun report that questioned the story.
Obama supporters aren’t flinching, because they, too, are playing rough. Obama’s newest supporter, the parent of the Culinary Union, UNITE HERE, is running ads on Spanish-language radio that say, “Hillary Clinton does not respect our people,” which seems a bit hard to believe, especially given the support of people such as Dolores Huerta, co-founder of the United Farm Workers, and Raul Yzaguirre, former president of the National Council of La Raza.
Democrats now taking sides in this increasingly contentious contest can take solace in one point: No matter who wins the nomination, the leading contenders have learned from the Republicans, aped their tactics, and won’t be caught unaware by a GOP onslaught come November.
The contest in Nevada has featured disingenuous advertising, attacks based on flimsy evidence, faux-outraged surrogates and the pitching of insubstantial stories to reporters.
Former Sen. John Edwards, with fewer resources, is less able to engage, but Obama and Clinton are fully engrossed in this style of politics.
Because of their different campaign themes and messages (Clinton: tough and experienced fighter; Obama: fresh-faced uniter), they have taken different approaches. But the result is the same: This isn’t beanbag.
“The Clintons understand cutthroat politics from A to Z, and they’re willing to use the whole alphabet,” said Thomas Schaller, a University of Maryland, Baltimore, political scientist and an expert in Democratic politics.
Schaller noted that the Obama campaign has its own roster of up-and-coming jugular hunters.
David Lublin, an American University political scientist, noted the “pious” atmosphere of Iowa, which has been apotheosized by press and politicos alike. No longer in the sanctified confines of those states, Schaller mused, the candidates may feel freer to take shots.
Obama is somewhat hindered, however, Schaller noted.
“They boxed themselves in as the ‘Go clean’ candidate. No good political deed goes unpunished,” Schaller said.
In other words, Obama’s positive message of unity doesn’t allow him to engage in the elbow-throwing that has been the staple of winning presidential campaigns in recent decades.
That hasn’t prevented his surrogates, his union supporters or his staff from doing dirty work out of Obama’s view.
So, for instance, an Obama press aide in South Carolina, -- where as many as half of Democratic primary voters are black, compiled a dossier of clumsy and inflammatory statements coming from Clinton supporters on Obama’s race.
Obama then called for peace. Clinton followed up with a similar statement -- no doubt aware she was being tainted in a voter bloc she needs.
Obama disowned his staff’s tactics, as if he was unaware of what was happening in his own campaign.
The whole episode came across as Obama as noble peacemaker, even though the underhandedness of it was fairly transparent.
By using surrogates to make attacks, Obama remains above the fray. So state Sen. Steven Horsford, D-North Las Vegas, hosted a conference call Thursday and said, “The Clinton attacks on Barack Obama’s record are dishonest and frankly offensive to Nevadans.”
For her part, Clinton explicitly campaigns as the candidate who has taken the beating from the Republicans and will happily hit back. She has called this part of the campaign “fun.”
Her campaign has borrowed liberally from the Republican playbook. In one mail piece, even the substance of the attack has a Republican feel: Obama wants to raise your taxes.
The charge of Culinary Union “voter intimidation” echoes an accusation long made by Republican foes of organized labor, who say union bosses scare up votes from members.
President Clinton, probably the most talented political mind of his generation, has learned this from President Bush’s longtime political aide Karl Rove: Turn the opponent’s presumed strength into a weakness.
So the former president has questioned Obama’s anti-war credentials, even though Obama made a speech in 2002 expressing his opposition as Hillary Clinton was voting to give Bush authorization to invade Iraq.
Is it working? Hard to say.
Rick Perlstein, a liberal historian who wrote an authoritative account of the rise of Barry Goldwater, “Before the Storm,” said the Democratic coalition is different from Republicans’ and may not countenance these attacks.
Perlstein, who’s working on a book about the dirty tricksters of the Richard Nixon era, echoed the comments of a Republican operative when he said, “If the Republicans are the pros at tough politics, the Democrats aren’t even the junior varsity.”
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Hey, Hillary08! HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING YOU TO DISTRIBUTE PROPAGANDA?
CAN'T CLINTON WIN ON HER OWN MERITS WITHOUT CHEATING AND MANIPULATING?
No, she can't! No, she can't! No, she can't!
CLINTON IS BACKED BY DRUG COMPANIES. SHE IS BACKED BY LOBBYISTS.
Her campaign has PLANTED the ABOVE COMMENTS (by Hillary08) in EVERY SINGLE THREAD.
Cheating doesn't work in Vegas, ma'am.
EVERYBODY sees through you.
OBAMA '08
Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.
"There's a wall around Washington and we need to take it down. The American people are on the outside. And on the other side, on the inside, are the powerful, the well-connected and the very wealthy.That wall didn't build itself or appear overnight. For decades, politicians without convictions and powerful interests gathered their bricks and their stones and their mortar, and they went to work. They went to work to protect their interests, to block the voice of the American people, and to stop our country's progress. They went to work to protect, defend, and maintain the status quo.
"You have a choice in this election. You have to decide what kind of person you want as your next president. Do you want someone who is going to pretend that wall around Washington isn't there, or defend the people who helped build it? Or do you want someone who is going to lead with conviction and tell you the truth, and have a little backbone? Do you want someone who is going to hope that the people who spent millions of dollars and decades building that wall, and have billions more invested in keeping it up, are going to be willing to compromise, to take it down voluntarily? Or do you want someone who is going to stand up to those people and fight for your interests, when the chips are down, when your backs are against the wall, every single day?
"We have a choice in this election. We can keep trying to shout over that wall. We can keep trying to knock out a chink here and there, to punch little holes in it and hope our voices get through. We can settle for baby steps, half-measures and incremental change, and try to inch our way over that wall and toward a better future. Or we can be bold and knock it down. …
-John Edwards, DNC Fall Meeting
Knock Down That Wall! Don't vote the status quo and vote in another corporate Democrat.
Make a statement tomorrow and caucus for John Edwards.
FACT: THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY HAS GIVEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE CLINTON FAMILY AND TO THE BILL CLINTON LIBRARY. THIS KIND OF INFORMATION RAISES SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT BOTH CLINTON CHARACTER. SHE HAS CONSISTENTLY LIED AND TO TRY SMEAR OBAMA. SHE CHOOSES TO DISCUSS OBAMA'S RECORD, BECAUSE SHE HAS NO RECORD OF HER OWN TO RUN ON. TIME-AND-TIME SHE HAS TOUTED HER 35 YRS OF EXPERIENCE BUT HAS YET PROVIDED VOTERS OF THE SPECIFICS.
Obama is a selfish fraud.
He promised us “change” in Illinois too -- but failed to deliver anything. He has NEVER inititated or supported the kind of fundamental changes that would improve our lives or rid Chicago (my hometown) and Illinois of the politics as usual that has crippled it. On the contrary, he has supported, and benefited politically and financially from our corrupt system here.
The media has an obligation to provide a more insightful and meaningful exploration of Obama's profound lack of record on the issue of “change” in Chicago and Illinois.
The total number of delegates for the Democratic National Convention is 4,049 delegates. Currently, Obama has 25, Hillary has 24 and Edwards has 18. It is NOT a foregone conclusion that the race has been decided and that the choice is only between Obama and Hillary. DO NOT BELIEVE THE MEDIA HYPE. Both Obama and Hillary are too divisive to be an effective candidate.
Bring back some sanity and civility to this race by choosing John Edwards.
ATTENTION: USERNAME, DENWA IS A SPAMER WORKING FOR THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN IN NEVADA. THERE IS DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE THAT CLINTONS HAVE HIRED ONLINE SURROGATES TO SMEAR OBAMA'S RECORD. HERE ARE SOME OF THE RUMORS NEVADA VOTERS SHOULD BE AWARE OF: TAX HIKES, YUCCA MOUNTAIN AND MUSLIM AFFILIATION, ALL FALSE. PLEASE BEWARE OF SPAMERS LIKE DENWA.
Obama is much more progressive than Clinton, and yet he still appeals to many more Independents and Republicans than Clinton. If we want to get things done in DC, the right way, Obama is the one who has a history of creating the working majority necessary to accomplish it -- be it social security, medicare, a meaningful energy policy, enhanced natl security to real health care and a vibrant economy. Clinton's campaign continues to spread ridiculous and misleading information about Obama, which is just a signal that the old guard is threatened and is fighting for the position it feels entitled to. Long time loyalties to the family from Arkansas should give way to a true movement of change that isn't based on partisan politics. Vote your conscience. Vote Obama.
rem123 -- I'm flattered, but I'm just a Chicago resident with strong feelings about the con man Obama. You see, we have known him a lot longer than rest of Americans. He fooled us in Chicago with lofty promises of "change," but has done absolutely nothing for the people of Illinois as our U.S. Senator. He has, however, cut many sweet deals to enrich himself and his wife while on our payroll. I voted for him and feel totally ripped off by the guy.
Columnist John Kass said it best in the Chicago Tribune last week:
"All this pro-Barack hope and change and excitement, all these delicious, Barack-inspired comparisons to the Kennedys and Camelot and Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., it's all quite overwhelming, until you consider what's been left out:
That Obama is only a few short years removed from taking orders in Springfield, in the Illinois State Senate, and you know how clean Illinois politics is. So as we wait for Obama to transform our politics, let's hold our breath and see who turns purple first."
Why Hillary is more electable than any other democrat?
Watch the interview with the African-American Sen. Charles Rengel at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
Full address:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/vi...
I just ran across this. It is so funny because it is true. Newsflash! There are three major candidates running for the Democratic nomination, not two.
http://www.johnedwards.com/media/video/w...
It seems like the media is trying to do to John Edwards, what they have already done to Dennis Kucinich. Shame on you! Do not let the corporate Democrats (Hillary and Obama) silence the only candidate for change left.
Vote for John Edwards!
Obama for Regan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYD7iZG...
Obama's waffling backbone proving to be dangerous
How is he going to be more in love with Regan than the Republicans? If he truely loves Regan, how does that lines with Regan's "state's right" and "candilac black women".
This waffler without achievement is dangerous deception.
Obama is consistent in his waffling:
Obama "talks" against Iraq war, "votes" to fund it
Obama "talks" against Iran resolution, "absent" when voting takes place
Obama "talks" liberal and for the commoners, "loves" Ronald Regan
Obama "talks" against youthful indiscretions, "smokes" the cracks to his hearts content
Obama "talks" against playing race card, "distributes" memo to the journalist triggering race debate in South Carolina to win black votes
Two faces Elite democrat is dangerous. At least the elites on this blog supporting Obama are honest.
Obama's deception should be clear to all elite democrats by now
If Obama was so bad as an Illinois state senator, why does he have the endorsement of Illinois governor. Why did the Fraternal order of Policeof Illinois endorese him? Why did John Kerry endorse him? Why did Patrick Leahy endorse him? Why is it rumored, through good sources, that Al-Gore will soon endorse him?
Are you saying that these men don't know a fake when they se one? Do you think they would waste their time on Obama if there was not something there.
Read the Time Magazine artile mentioned in my post above, and you'll learn why they are all behind him.
Hillary08 in the first blog posted some shallow reasons to vote for Hillary: because she is a woman, and because it is her turn. We need to think about who will be best for the country. When choosing:
Consider that Obama has had the right judgement: Obama has been right, Hillary has been wrong (Iraq, Iran, talking to foreign leaders....)
Consider who will work best to bring people together in this country: Obama has shown with his work with Republicans in the State and US Senate to pass important legislation (nuclear arms control, federal spending transparence, ethics in Congress) that he can work with others. Hillary has not passed successful legislation.
Consider who has had the most legislative success: Obama has helped pass legislation on civil rights; education; women, kids and veterans health; alternative energy initiatives; as well as those mentioned above. Hillary has not produced meaningful legislation. Her Senate record is bleak. Her health care plan failed. She was kicked out of Bill's administration because people didn't like her.
Consider who the rest of the world will work with the best: Obama listens to other people and finds agreement in disagreements. Hillary lectures and insults people. In this campaign alone, she's insulted women, men, whites, blacks, Muslims, and the youth.
Obama has shown that he is a doer. Hillary has not been successful in the Senate.
Obama is ready to be the president, he has the constitution to do it. Hillary knows how to set up the government because of the White House years, but she will not be as good at making the right decisions and working with people. She will not be good after day 1.
Please, when choosing who to vote for, look at the candidates and what they have done, and what that means about what they can do.
Just a note on the health insurance issue:
Obama's proposal offers support to people who can't afford. Hillary's campaign, with it's mandate, would force people to pay for it, whether or not they could afford it.
The comment about no change in Illinois is not true. Here's what Obama has done in Illinois:
Community Organizer, 1985
He sought to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment
* Moved the Chicago Housing Authority to remove asbestos in housing
* Established a job-training center
* Worked in the streets on voter registration to help elect President Clinton
* Registered 150,000 people to vote
Civil Rights Lawyer, Miner, Barnhill & Galland: litigated employment discrimination, housing discrimination, and voting rights cases
Constitutional Law professor/lecturer at the University of Chicago.
Illinois State Senate
* Welfare legislation
* Created the Earned Income Tax Credit program that gave over $100 million in tax cuts for families throughout Illinois over 3 years.
* Expanded early childhood education
* Enlisted the support of law enforcement officials to draft legislation requiring the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.
* Passed, with U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL), the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned most gifts from lobbyists.
* Barack Obama sponsored and passed legislation that expanded health care coverage to 70,000 kids and 84,000 adults.
Obama has the right judgement:
Obama "talks" against youthful indiscretions, "smokes" the cracks to his hearts content and jokes about it as an adult
Obama "talks" against Iraq war, "votes" to fund it
Obama "talks" against Iran resolution, "absent" when voting takes place
Obama "talks" liberal and for the commoners, "loves" Ronald Regan
Obama "talks" against playing race card, "distributes" memo to the journalist triggering race debate in South Carolina to win black votes
Two faces Elite democrat is dangerous. At least the elites on this blog supporting Obama are honest.
Obama has false words and deception
Obama achievement list summary:
Years in work: Age 46
Total achievement: 10
President for 8 years: 1.5 achievements
This will not cut it "Kiku". At least ask his campaign to list these in his website. Currently have 5 achievement listed there.
If Obama wins I am voting Republican.
Hillary has been pro war from day one, look for the same:
Here’s her history:
White House:
Many officials — including Madeleine K. Albright and Richard Holbrooke in the administration and Tony Blair, then Britain’s prime minister — turned to her at times to stiffen Mr. Clinton’s resolve to take on Serbia.
“Bill, you’re the president,” was a refrain that several administration officials said she used when Mr. Clinton was torn between his advisers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/pol...
The Iraq vote:
Hillary voted for Iraq, as did many others. She’s a lawyer, she knew what it meant, she knew what it could do.
There was another vote, prior to the Iraq resolution, introduced by Levin. This called for the use of UN inspectors, and insisted that Bush come to Congress before using military war. Hillary voted NAY. She wanted to give Bush the tools to go to war, presumably so that Bush had sufficient power with the UN.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/opinio...
She then voted for the unfettered Iraq Resolution. This is a quote from at NYTimes Magazine article:
At the time she cast that vote, she was among the Senate’s most outspoken Democrats warning of Saddam Hussein’s dangerous arsenal. Unlike nearly all of her fellow Democrats, she even went so far as to argue that Saddam Hussein gave assistance to Al Qaeda members.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/29/magazi...
Durbin verifies that the Iraq Resolution was a vote for going to war:
"Those of us voting on it that October night took it very seriously," Durbin said. The invasion of Iraq as a consequence of the vote "was a very realistic option," he said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
Hillary acknowledged that she did not read the NIE intelligence report, which pointed out the weaker evidence than they were told. Those who did read the report tended to vote NO on the Iraq resolution. Now, Hillary is trying to blame Condaleeza Rice.
Iran:
Hillary beat the war drums harder than Bush in 2006 to take on Iran.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
Hillary was the only presidential candidate to vote for the Iran resolution.
Hillary voted against an Iraq funding bill that tied funds to political progress in Iraq. It passed, 80-14. She was the only Democrat to vote against it.
The total number of delegates for the Democratic National Convention is 4,049 delegates (or more). Currently, Obama has 25, Hillary has 24 and Edwards has 18.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE MEDIA HYPE. It is NOT a foregone conclusion that the race has been decided and that the choice is only between Obama and Hillary. I believe that both Obama and Hillary are too divisive to be an effective candidate.
Bring back some sanity and civility to this race by choosing John Edwards.
SeedsOfChange: you have a funny way of counting.
I've been in discussions with Hillary's supporters before. When they can't compete with data of their own to match mine, they start silly arguments.
Just for the record, my data is taken from Obama's website.
Baloney. I have relatives who work the casinos, and yes, there IS intimidation going on.
I challenge the Sun to produce any PROOF whatsoever that the story was a paid, false charge.
Who in Chicago is pulling YOUR strings, Sun? Fee Fi Fo Fum, I smell some Daley in this mix.
CAVEAT: I am not a part of anyone's campaign, have received no money from anyone's campaign, and am no one's surrogate.
It is a shame that Hillary has failed to make full disclosure. On Feb. 21, a trial date will be set in Los Angeles for the Paul v Clinton civil case. That case is going to finally reveal a massive campaign finance fraud and coverup that Hillary's pals in the press have not wanted to know. She will be under oath before the election. The FEC ruled in Dec. 2005 that her campaign filed three false reports and failed to declare $721,000. She filed a fourth false amended report in Jan. 2006. We have compelling evidence that a US attorney withheld critical video evidence of her involvement in the illegal solicitation of a hard money, in-kind contribution of over a million dollars. Here is the trailer for the documentary film that exposes the fraud. The Republicans know all this info and have held back on using it until she gets the nomination.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...
FORTUNE MAGAZINE - Hillary Clinton's Plan Will DESTROY the housing market, and RAISE MORTGAGE RATES - PLEASE - DO NOT BELIEVE HER LIES:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/16/commenta...
I've checked the facts myself about ALL candidates.
The issues I care the most: Education, Immigration, Economy, Healthcare, Foreign policy and Civil Rights.
The qualities I need in a President: Honesty, Vision, Judgement, Experience, Ethics, Family, Character, Records, Wisdom, Background.
My choice: Sen. Barack H. Obama
I invite you all to take this unique opportunity and vote Obama.
I don't hate the other candidates, they have some good points all of them. In my opinion none has the impressive set of qualities Obama has.
I am American, I love my Country, I am for Obama for President, I am hispanic.
Wish you all take time to think about and make a good choice. I wish you a wise decision. See you tomorrow.
drafu asks: "If Obama was so bad as an Illinois state senator, why does he have the endorsement of Illinois governor.""
____________________________
Do a little research on our governor in Illinois. He's doing everything he can to stay out of prison on corruption charges. Do a little research on the major of Chicago. The feds are all over him for fraud and corruption.
Obama is of leader in the Daley Machine here in Chicago, one of the oldest and most corrupt political organizations in the history of mankind. His team is Daley, Durbin, Blago and the other members of the Illinois house of theives.
Don't kid yourself -- Obama has done nothing for Illinoisans. He sold us "change" too. On the contrary, he has worked to maintain the corrupt status quo that has made him and his cronies very wealthy. See Rezko, for example.
Obama is a major Chicago con man. Don't be fooled.
THE BIG LIE
The reason many (actually most) of us who have worked with or for the Clintons is their embrace of the theory of the Big Lie. Tyrants have always used this theory that if you have an uninformed public and a docile press you then state a lie boldly and forcefully and with no rebuttal it becomes accepted truth.
Example; Mrs. Clinton today is in Compton, CA again making the statement to blacks that as a young person she was so inspired by King.
Truth is Mrs. Clinton was president of the Young Republicans and a Goldwater Girl. Goldwater's whole campaign was against the proposed civil rights laws. Mrs. Clinton didn't "see the light" until well after MLK's death in 1968.
The Clintons practice is never, ever, under any circumstance admit a mistake and that you have changed your mind(s). It makes you look stronger to change the facts boldly and make it stick. This is the Big Lie theory. A few other people in recent history have mastered this technique but they all eventually cause millions of deaths and disasters for their countries.
THINK BEFORE YOU GIVE THE CLINTONS A THIRD TERM !
Lies, deceit, playing the race card, playing the gender card. Us vs them, men vs women, white vs black. That's what the Hillary campaign has shown itself to be. Folks, America doesn't need this! Enough of this Bush-Clinton dance! Vote for a true leader, a uniter, not a divider. I think you know whom I'm for; and if you figured that out, why then would you still be for the other side?
denwa: if obama is bad, hillary is worst. She has no real legislative accomplishments and she has no conscious.
she and bill are only concerned with retaining and building power. She and the teachers deliberately went out of their way to supress the minority vote.
Oh, now people are supporting Hillary because Obama is the one with a history of corruption? Well, here's a preview of what we have to look forward to should Clinton win the nomination.
http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
You people are absolutely delusional. (And by you people I essentially mean the same ten people I see on countless message boards posting the exact same baseless smears about Obama over and over again.)
If sleeping with a President qualifies for experience then vote for the Clinton HillBillies.If scandal,sleeze and divisive petty politicking are a necessary ingredient in 21st American politics then by all means please welcome the scheming candidate who stood by her man. She is not the one who got laid in the White House, then why should she be be paid through the twisted pennance of getting the American Presidency. Hillary is talented, yes...enough to start her own Talk Show. Cry me a river New Hampshire. I trust, believe and keep the faith in the hope of a New America...thats a source of pride to the rest of the progressive world. The Clintons give me the creeps. Remember Ron Brown!!
The further away you get from Chicago, the more the image of Saint Obama of Oprah takes hold. Publications like the New Yorker may coo for him, but the two Chicago newspapers are much more interested in Obama's close 17-year friendship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a long-time Obama donor and property developer awaiting trial on charges of attempted extortion, money laundering and fraud. A low-income housing project received more than $14m from taxpayers while Obama was a state senator, but he consistently denied that he had done any favours for Rezko. That was until the Chicago Sun-Times unearthed two letters Obama wrote to state officials in 1998 urging them to grant extra funds for Rezko's project.
Democrats and Republicans alike in Chicago, too, are intrigued by the question of why Obama paid $1.65m for a mansion in the city's south side in 2005 - $300,000 less than the asking price - on the very same day Rezko's wife happened to buy the house next door for the asking price.
Obama is no better than any other politician who skims and scams. You're being s-u-c-k-e-r-e-d by one of America's leading con men.
Obama kissing Regan's behind does not seem to bother elite democrats. It does not risk their social security money, it does not risk their minimum wage, so why would they care
This election is not about high minded reconciliation of the nation, this not about great speech. This is about economy, jobs, house, etc.
Elite democrats may have great heart, but some of them seems to be out the touch with reality.
Get real. It will be a battle to win against republicans, it is not for "waffler" like Obama.
http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_ba...
Look under "Political Career" of Obama. Six years in Illinois congress, 1 paragraph, 2 sentence to describe his great achievements :-)
In the same segment, 2 years in US Senate, 2 paragraph, lot of sentence with no concrete achievements. He sould have mentioned his achievement that Senator can not any longer eat with lobbist, unless they are standing up :-)
It is amazing, what he is getting away with. Republicans and corporate media will not let this guy get away with this once they get him as nominee.
Democrat elites obsession with Clinton's bedroom habits seems very strange.
You guys like to read a lot, please read life story of older Bush, JFK, FDR, Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, you will enjoy those stories as well.
Don't form your opinion based on Republicans and Media.
You will end up kissing Regan's behind like Obama.
Clearly, Barack Obama’s colleagues think he’s ready. Those who work with him are coming out in support of Barack Obama since the viability of his candidacy has become evident. Almost all endorsements of Obama by sitting senators have occurred since the first of Jan 2008, and most after the NH primary:
Patrick Leahy
Claire McCaskill
Ben Nelson
Dick Durbin
John Kerry
Tim Johnson
Kent Conrad
Two former senators, each of whom have worked with Hillary but not Barack, have endorsed Obama, and not Clinton:
Tom Daschle
Bill Bradley
On the other hand, Hillary has had one co-worker (Sen. Maria Cantwell) endorse here since October 2007 and none have endorsed her since the race became competitive.
What exactly has Hillary she gotten done in her polical career?
35 years of ‘experience’? in politics yes, but only 7 years *representing a constituency* - her career certainly doesn't demonstrate a long term drive to make a difference to others…
What has she succeeded at? Not only was the health care initiative was miserably designed, the rollout was a disaster. Nothing here.
Has she demonstrated an ability to work within the system? Hillary Clinton has sponsored 350 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 304 haven't made it out of committee. This is a Very Poor success rate relative to her peers. See www.govtrack.us
Finally, none of the bills the she has introduced and passed by the senate "get it done" for anybody. Vast majority are non-controversial resolutions ( statements of opinion or non-binding requests, not laws).
Endorsements don’t convince people to vote for a particular presidential candidate, but endorsements from co-workers can be informative when examined in their totality.
Elite Democrats don't take your que from Republicans and Media as some of you seem to indicate.
Democrats have only won 3 out of last 10 election. Only one won 2 of them.
Join the reality. Vote for a winner.
Don't dive into bed with Regan and Obama. This is a strange love affair.
Hillary is shameless. She lost my respect when she aligned her self with that lawsuit with the Nevada Teachers Union to prevent union workers from voting in at-large precincts. Who would of been affected had by the lawsuit had it been successful? minority workers. Her behavior is just blasphemy. And i wish Hillary would drop Bill-he is doing her more harm than good.
I am not going to vote for Monica Levinsky's exBoy friend's wife... are you?
...on the lighter side, but still a thing to consider.
It is not that I am against lesbians, please don't take me wrong. I fully respect every one's sexual preferences. But when it comes to the White House, I may be touchy on that, period.
Allow me to provide some light on a lot of misunderstanding here:
One, Senator Obama championed an extremely successful health care plan for Illinois children - All Kids http://www.allkids.com/, created with Rod R. Blagojevich(IL Gov.)is literally a model for a workable, affordable national health care plan. All children qualify, $40 per child for full coverage health insurance? How many of you making around $45,000 a year pay such a low premium. What health care program has Hillary created. She stated during the Nevada debate that she helped pass the CHIP, Children's Health Insurance Program, the federal program that covers millions of children in the US. She completely mislead the audience. Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a conservative Republican, along with Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat, wrote the monumental health care bill in 1997. Hillary boasted bravely of her achievement that night, but she was not in office in 1997, she was the first lady at the time, and was wrapped up in the Monica Lewinsky affair.
Two, Barack Obama has had a fantastic career, even before his political office. He was an Illinois Senator from 1996 to 2004. As a state legislator, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[33] He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for child care.[34] Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped.[34] The law was at first very controversial, but due to Obama's skills as a negotiator and bipartisanships, he won the support of the police. During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.-Wikipedia.
Time Magazine wrote an excellent article on Obama's political achievements - http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...
I'm fairly shocked at the misinformation of this election cycle. I wish I could remain unbiased. But Obama's dedication to service, his consistency to fight on behalf of the interest of the American people cannot be ignored. A presidency under him would indeed be a win for the common man, and undoubtely would be a new era in Washington politics.
I'm afraid that under the Clinton's - If her current smear and suppress tactics are any indication - it would simply be more of the same Washington politics. I am voting for Obama because I beleive we do need a new direction for our country, and Obama is exactly the man that can do that.
Does this mean if Obama gets elected no one can ever use the words “fairy tale” again, or any other words that might suggest he doesn’t know what he’s doing or what he’s talking about or that he might be full of BS, because that might be perceived as racially insensitive?
That’s a serious issue, regardless of Obama’s politics, if political speech is going to be curtailed about something as important as the performance in office of the president of the United States, because someone’s feelings might get hurt.
I’m guessing anything remotely resembling any of the delightful remarks about Bush's chimpy appearance, intelligence, preparedness for office and performance in the last seven years would pretty much be out with poor old Obama.
Can you imagine four years of an Obama adminstration's racial slicing and dicing? What a mess. No way.
When did Obama ever say anything about curtailing free speech, or when did he ever mention anything about political correctness in speech. If that's a serious issue to you, then that's actually pretty hilarious.
LOL, do you think Obama is going to pass a law outlawing free speech. Damn, do you scare tactic mongers have any shame.
Seriously, grow up.
DENWA: PLEASE INFORM THE READERS THAT U ARE A CLINTON SURROGATE. STOP WRITING MISLEADING INFORMATION OBAMA. PLEASE, CAUCUS FOR REAL CHANGE @11 AM FOR OBAMA. OBAMA AND TO SOME EXTENT EDWARDS ARE PART OF THE FUTURE, HILLARY IS SO THE PAST. SHE IS ONLY INTERESTED IN KEEPING AND BUILDING POWER. SHE HAS CONNECTIONS TO WALL STREET AND THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY.
What I regret about these recent weeks of dirty politics, is that Barack Obama, through no fault of his own, has been painted, in lurid colors, by the Clinton's(cause let's face it, Bill is running with Hillary this time:)) into a person he is really not. It's obvious that many people didn't know about Obama before this election heated up.
I'm not trying to sway anyone's vote, because we are all going to vote the way according to our own reason. All these heated exchanges and bare naked attempts to appeal to each other's emotions for the benefit of our chosen candidate is not likely to change our minds.But with that said, and no matter if Hillary winds up destroying Barack, or if magically people wind up supporting him in wild numbers again, Barack Obama has honestly led a remarkable political life, and has largely worked toward helping the poor, fighting corporate power, and working to improve health care.
Now, you may be skeptical of that, given all the press coverage and rumors that have been floating around, but it really is true. Read Time Magazines article - http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...
Time's article is clear and concise, but if you'd rather read just a listing of facts on Obama, read the Wikipedia Encyclopedia entry on him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obam...
Barack has lived a fairly noble life, as far as politicians go. So I just don't think it's fair the way the media, and the Clinton's are trying destroy his image. he's lead a good life, and honestly believes in the idea that our government would better if we'd minimize bipartisanship polarization. He's one of our better politicians, and even if he doesn't win, he's still going to keep fighting for the common good.
Barack Obama sits on the following committees:
Member, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
Chairman, Subcommittee on European Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on African Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection
Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Member, Subcommittee on Children and Families
Member, Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety
Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Member, Subcommittee on Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration
Member, Subcommittee on Investigations
Member, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security
Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Saying Reagan changed America in a way that Nixon and Clinton did not is just a statement of obvious fact from an academic, not agreement. If you say Hitler changed Germany does that make you a Nazi?
I think the point everyone needs to realize is that to really make change you need a landslide election or at least a broad consensus. Neither Nixon or Clinton had landslides and couldn't form a consensus to move any direction. Both presidents were hamstrung by trivial partisan bickering and pride. Progressives have to realize that we have to either have a candidate who can get a landslide or else one who can persuade enough of the opposition to join progressives on an issue, be it health care, election reform, or the war(s).
The last two Clinton terms did not provide anything close to this. If anything when public opinion turned to the Republicans, the Clintons seemed to rush to become like the Republicans.
Come on, Dems! Vote for the guy who you really agree with -- Ron Paul. Immediate withdrawal from Iraq, repeal of the Patriot Act, and ending of the Fed's devaluation of the dollar. Pro-liberty, pro-privacy, and pro-prosperity. Skip the Democratic caucus, and vote for Ron Paul in the Republican caucus --- you know you want to!
Citizens of Nevada:
We're looking at you. If you support labor, support the real labor candidate, John Edwards. If you support the establishment, Vote HRC. If you support gauzey attempts at fixing stuff, vote Obama. Love, Oregon
Vote for Romney and save the economy. He has shown a lot of interest in Nevada. Come out and caucus for him tomorrow!!!
Oh Hillary’s website it states “Nobody has worked harder or longer to improve health care than Hillary Clinton. From her time in Arkansas when she improved rural health care to her successful effort to create the SCHIP Children's Health Insurance program which now covers six million children,"
First, a link to information --with many sources to follow up on -- about SCHIP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Child....
I have a hard time holding back my laughter as I write about this, but the educated among you will realize that SCHIP was written in 1997 by Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a conservative Republican, and Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat. It was a true bipartisan effort because both men cared about children --http://query.nytimes.co/gst/fullpage.html?res=980CE4D81E39F937A25750C0A961958260
Hillary was not in office at the time, Bill was, and Bill didn't write the legislation either, though he did support it. Hillary didn't help SCHIP pass; she simply spoke about it publicly, which I give her credit for. But honestly, she was a first lady and living under the Monica Lewinski scandal at the time. This claim on her website is just dishonest. Talk about taking credit for someone else's work. It was the work of those two senators, and a bipartisan effort, that got the legislation passed. Real lawmakers made that happen, not Hillary.
And like all the tactics we've seen from her these past few weeks, she distorts her opponent’s record, and just blatantly lies to the public about her own.
A lot of people have lapped up her expert(and I do give her credit for expert dirty politics-Karl Rove take note) campaign to paint Obama as an inexperienced candidate, but again for the educated, he has led a brilliant career, which is why so many high level politicians have endorsed him. You didn't really beleive that they were doing it without knowing anything about Obama did you? Lol. It's the public that doesn't know Barack, not the other way around. Wake up. If you want to read about Barrack’s career, political life, and service to the people of our country, read the AP's excellent article on his experience and qualifications --http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1704117,00.html
Truthfully, Barack is the one who worked hard as an Illinois senator, in 1996-2004, I might add, to get great health care passed in his state(refer to AP article and Wikipedia link above).
If you want to know the candidates for real. And if you don't want to be manipulated by the media and by dirty politics, then you are going to have to read these things yourself. It is an important decision. Let the truth be told.
And another thing, this ridiculous concept of calling Obama a dreamer. Wow, it only shows how little you guys actually follow politics. You have no idea what he has accomplished in his life, and why he is where he is today. Do you think so many high level politicians, Collin Powell, Sen. Leahy, friggin John Kerry, soon Al Gore, and Ted Sorenson for crying out loud(Sorensen was President John F.Kennedy's Special Counsel & Adviser, and he wrote the famous line "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country", along with a whole host of others would draw the political lines that they have drawn through their endorsements, and risk their careers on Obama if they had not thoroughly vetted him?
It's the American people who don't know Obama yet, not those seasoned politicians.
Read about his real career and experience from AP/Time Magazinehere: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...
And if you want to know why Ted Sorenson(JFK's adviser) supports him, then watch this video of him saying it in his own words: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ReDCmk2c2g8
Truth will always trump lies Hillary. Try running an honest campaign sometime.
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Isn't this a little odd to even the most stubborn of you all?
If my life-long, best-friend, told me those 3,000 innocent people who only showed up to work that day, deserved to die for whatever reason he gave, he would not be my friend anymore.
Views like Wrights and Farrakhans are not simple disagreements... They are definite friend breakers.
If you spin this in your mind or create other circumstances in your mind, you are simply being a fool.
As a matter of fact, I'd have to hold back striking my own mother if that filth came out of her mouth.
I certainly wouldn't be showing up for dinner again.
Not only has Barack continued to show up for dinner, he's still putting his good friend on a pedastal while his friend still preaches black/muslim power and hiding their muslim faith behind Christianity.
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Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam, Trinity Chruch which is a front for the Nation of Islam, Reverend Wright the Racist leader of Trinity Church, and Baraack Hussein Osama are bad news.
Iowa proved white Americans aren't racist. Barack Hussein Osama, Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan only stand for black/muslim power.
Vote for anyone other than this racist!!!
The country CAN NOT AFFORD these three guy's agenda.
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_Chu...
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2937953
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17701499/pag...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
http://www.trumpetmag.com/home.cfm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXeNk7H3...
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/ko...
SO THEY L I K E O U R B E S T F R I E N D S :)
But in an interview with PBS's "Religion & Ethics Newsweekly" recorded just before Obama's February announcement, Wright said he warned the senator that their association could pose political problems, partly because of his history of supporting Palestinian causes.
Wright also told The New York Times in an interview published March 6: "When his (Obama's) enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli" with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan to visit Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, "a lot of his Jewish and white support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17701499/
Hillary's attempt to control people through the policy of fear is weak, and will not work this election cycle. Fear of race, fear of war..damn, I'm afraid of her. I'm afraid of the democratic version of Bush. I'm afraid of thirty years of multi millionaire politicians in the white house --Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton. Give me a break. No, better yet, give me a different politician in the white house, anything besides just George Bush's son and Bill Clinton's wife. Talk about Hijacking the white house.
Farrakhan said that if Obama was avoiding controversial black leaders like himself, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Rev. Jesse Jackson for fear of alienating white voters it would be an acceptable price to pay for an Obama victory.
"If avoiding me would help him to become president, I'd be glad to stay in the background, because of the taint that's on the minister," he said.
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.. i'd be glad to stay in the backround.
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Will the people see through all the BS, cover ups and strong arming?
We'll find out in a few hours..
Notice how truth responded to my comments. By posting something designed to play on the politics of fear. You see how a Clinton presidency would be.
It would just be a Democratic version of Bush part 2.
So sad. And so what, Farakhan says he's impressed by Obama. Who isn't impressed by Obama. Democrats, independents, republicans, blacks, whites, hispanics, mena and women, young and old. He is inspiring and his record speaks for itself -- http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...
Isn't George Bush's father chumey chum with Bill Clinton? So what should we infer from that, fear monger?
Grow up. The politics of fear are weak, and crumble easily. The truth will always trump lies.
Hillary is a weak candidate because she is all about nbegative politics. And her supporters, as can plainly be seen, only want to spread rumors about race to make people afraid of Obama.
Are you going to let them treat you like children and play on fears. I thought we had enough of George Bush playing with our emotions? And now we are going to let the Clinton Machine do it?
Fear of war/Fear of race/Fear of war/Fear of race, Clinton/BUSH/Clinton/Bush, back and forth. We need new blood in the white house, not more of this bush/Clinton insanity.
They don't know how to win just based on their own merits, they only can use fear and dirty tricks.
Here's to all those who beleive in Hope more than Fear! Here's to a better America!
And why haven't any clinton supporters responded to my explanation about Hillary's lie about her role in SCHIP. Haha, because they know less about real politics than she does. I'll post it again though.
Oh Hillary’s website it states “Nobody has worked harder or longer to improve health care than Hillary Clinton. From her time in Arkansas when she improved rural health care to her successful effort to create the SCHIP Children's Health Insurance program which now covers six million children,"
First, a link to information --with many sources to follow up on -- about SCHIP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Child.......
I have a hard time holding back my laughter as I write about this, but the educated among you will realize that SCHIP was written in 1997 by Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a conservative Republican, and Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat. It was a true bipartisan effort because both men cared about children --http://query.nytimes.co/gst/fullpage.html?res=980CE4D81E39F937A25750C0A961958260
Hillary was not in office at the time, Bill was, and Bill didn't write the legislation either, though he did support it. Hillary didn't help SCHIP pass; she simply spoke about it publicly, which I give her credit for. But honestly, she was a first lady and living under the Monica Lewinski scandal at the time. This claim on her website is just dishonest. Talk about taking credit for someone else's work. It was the work of those two senators, and a bipartisan effort, that got the legislation passed. Real lawmakers made that happen, not Hillary.
And like all the tactics we've seen from her these past few weeks, she distorts her opponent’s record, and just blatantly lies to the public about her own.
A lot of people have lapped up her expert(and I do give her credit for expert dirty politics-Karl Rove take note) campaign to paint Obama as an inexperienced candidate, but again for the educated, he has led a brilliant career, which is why so many high level politicians have endorsed him. You didn't really beleive that they were doing it without knowing anything about Obama did you? Lol. It's the public that doesn't know Barack, not the other way around. Wake up. If you want to read about Barrack’s career, political life, and service to the people of our country, read the AP's excellent article on his experience and qualifications --http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1704117,00.html
Truthfully, Barack is the one who worked hard as an Illinois senator, in 1996-2004, I might add, to get great health care passed in his state(refer to AP article and Wikipedia link above).
If you want to know the candidates for real. And if you don't want to be manipulated by the media and by dirty politics, then you are going to have to read these things yourself. It is an important decision. Let the truth be told.
And how could Obama be racist? He was raised by his white grand parents, who he credits for shaping his outlook on life. His campaign manager is white, and his entire campaign is multi cultural.
Hillary, enough lies, if you have such a strong record, then it should be vetted. I've vetted you on your ignorant SCHIP boasting, as if you wrote the legislation yourself, while you were a first lady.
Lol, it's really hilarious, and I'm glad you said it on national TV. Cause you can't take it back now.
Clinton doesn't tell you how she will impose a penalty on Americans that will not or cannot buy her version of "affordable" health care coverage. She had the nerve to say the plan Obama has to protect Social Security would hurt the middle class. The problem is that the tax Obama would impose would only affect people who make more than 90 some thousand dollars a year. Who is to say she won't take this same view of middle class in regards to the economy...
OBAMA DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE OUR PRESIDENT
Obama was AWOL from his Senate seat and did not vote a record 130 times!!! when it came time to '"change" America, some "agent for change" Obama is!
In Illinois Obama fixed his wife's salary doubling it to $365,000.00 a year while he was doing nothing for the people of Illinois.
Obama's supporters are rude, vicious people from what we have encountered steadily, obviously not deserving of their candidate winning anything let alone the White House.
Obama encourages his supporter's ill behavior like he did with his smear job "stand up" routine attack on Hillary at a high school yesterday. Why not ask Hillary those questions instead of a bunch of high school kids coward?
Obama has not paid his dues like Hillary has.
Obama's health care plan leaves millions of Americans out in the cold!!
Obama and his campaign workers constantly use bait and switch attacks on their fellow Democrats. Being sneaky and dishonest are hardly traits we need all over again for 4 - 8 more years like we've suffered through with Bush.
After Obama slanders Hillary he plays innocent and becomes Mr. Nice guy, and it's "let's all have a truce" when he was the one who instigated the whole thing! never mind a truce, how about an apology Mr. Arrogant!?
Obama has no experience compared to Hillary, only a Jr. Senator 2 short years to Hillary's 7 years, including her re-election.
Obama stooped to playing a false race card effectively dividing the Democrats, pitting Democrat against Democrat and Black against White, how does Obama expect to unite the whole country when his false race accusations have split his OWN party? Hillary was simply making a point that it takes team work between leaders like MLK and FDR to get work done, and she is right! because she knows from her experience how it's done! MLK Jr. even said "Hillary didn't mean anything against his father"
Obama is too young and inexperienced to be President, JFK had 14 years in the Congress and Senate before he ran, and Obama is no JFK, how arrogant a comparison is that?
Obama steals lines from MLK and JFK for his speeches in an attempt to dupe his zombie youth, clone army into thinking he is as great as MLK and JFK. Hey Obama, here's a clue! accomplish something first like MLK and JFK did! and be original, "I have a dream" ?? get your OWN line!
Obama is a "dreamer" Hillary is a "doer"
Voting for Obama just because he says he "has a dream" is like voting for Bush because you can "sit and have a beer with him"
Obama's second largest campaign contributer is Exelon Corp, the largest nuclear energy company in America, so much for the environment! We already have a President and Vice President tied to big energy screwing us and endangering our environment, we don't need another one!
Obama and his wife are both quite obviously a very materialistic pair, as evidenced by their lush lifestyle. Bill Clinton is right! Obama is the Establishment Candidate, just look at his 'health care plan' it only covers those who can afford it!
We already have a President we are trying to be rid of giving all our money away to foreigners, we don't need another one.
We already have a President we are trying to be rid of that bases his judgments on what "God tells him to do" and that helped cause Bush's Iraq war!! we don't need another one.
We already have a President we are trying to be rid of who refuses to hold people accountable who screw up when they work for him, we certainly don't need another one. Hillary on the other hand quickly fired several of her people when they stepped out of line, she does not mess around or cover people who step out.
Obama uses the "roll technique" in speeches used by preachers to brain wash their followers into believing anything they tell them! Cult leaders use this technique to brainwash their followers into "believing" too, beware!
Obama is very arrogant talking down to Hillary in his blatant disrespect for her being a woman, 15 years Obama's senior and First Lady for 8 years, how egotistical and arrogant!
Obama is disrespectful along with his snotty, clueless followers to Bill Clinton too thumbing their noses at Bill's incredible legacy and all the great things he has done for America and poor people all over the world.
Hillary is a great lady and ready to lead on day one, she already knows exactly what to do! and we need change NOW.
Hillary All the Way!!!
Regarding Obama 's career in Illinois...he has done almost nothing here, and never risked one iota of political capital to challenge the entrenched and corrupt politics here, and also never used those connections to try to effect change from within the machine. Also interesting the charges that Hilary is some sort of overly ambitious person (somehow tying this to the marital drama over Monica...?.) It is funny- Hilary was elected senator and immediately and became by all accounts a well informed and hardworking congressperson. Obama gets elected (in a walk-on contest by the way, because his opponent went down in scandal, so he has never been tested in even a statewide general election) and immediately begins running for president. Talk about naked ambition cloaked in rhetoric of change and Mr nice guy.
and regarding the monica thing_ what happens inside a marriage is really private and frankly, sort of beyond the point. If she wondered what was "the right thing to do"- how is that political?. It seems the right thing is a good criteria. She didn't say, "what would be popular", or "what looks best", or even, "what is best for me". Asking oneself what is the right thing to do seems to me to indicate someone asking thmeselves the correct question.
And by the way, what should she have done? moved into some condo in DC? And been prey to the press every time she needed groceries? C'mon.
The devil himself can descend in NV and vote for Hillary, He may even bring all his armies. All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
Bill Clinton may yell at reporters, he may even bark. All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
Marketer and political strategists may repackage Hillary Clinton and sell her to us; All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
All Clinton support can vote for her as long as they want; All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
Why?
Americans in the vast majority are people with a good judgment. They know and see what the Clintons are.
But how many times can Hillary ASK that same question of herself...and claim to have ANY shred of self respect left? It didn't START with Lewinsky...Paula Jones? Jennifer Flowers? Time and time again, her husband couldn't keep it in the pants...and time and time again...she was forced to eat crow and spin adultery as "a private part of a marriage."
Don't know about you, but the woman I married would rightly boot me out the door. And by some miracle if I GOT a second chance...I certainly wouldn't just go out and do it again.
The definition of insanity is choosing the same course of action, over and over...and expecting a different result.
Perhaps that's the metaphor for this campaign...
If we choose Hillary Clinton...we're buying into perpetuating an already-broken system.
There's a lot of info about Barack in his book, The Audacity of Hope...that you should consider reading before making blanket generalizations about the guy...he's been STOMPED in an election before, for example, yet you act as if his life and experience was a cakewalk...he worked a lot of door to door thoughout your state...and enacted some good, long standing programs.
(Videotaping of police interrogations comes to mind...as does program work for the truly disadvantaged on Chicago's south side)
He's NOT perfect...but unlike almost every other candidate...has the guts to admit it.
My opinion? If Hillary had kicked Bill to the curb...she'd possibly win this election in a landslide. Because she and Bill "could remain close friends" while showing the TRUE FORTITUDE it takes to make a really tough decision. Bill could have STILL campaigned for her...and she could TRULY be the self-sufficient woman she touts herself to be...rather than the woman who remains married because it's better for her political career.
Hillary!! Hillary!! Hillary!!
Hillary!! Hillary!! Hillary!!
Hillary!! Hillary!! Hillary!!
Hillary!! Hillary!! Hillary!!
Hillary!! Hillary!! Hillary!!
You can't knock down our spirit no matter how hard you try you Obama zombies!!
WE LOVE YOU HILLARY!!
Hillary in 08!!
OBAMA'S RECORD ON YUCCA:On April 18, 2002, the Illinois State Senate passed SR342 urging the U.S. Congress to support Bush on Yucca:
Illinois State Senate Resolution 342 "urges Congress to sustain President Bush's affirmative decision on Yucca Mountain's suitability as a permanent federal repository for high-level radioactive materials." [S.R. 342, 4/18/02]
Sen. Obama had the opportunity to speak out against the resolution but remained silent. From the State Senate transcript:
"Is there any discussion? Is there any discussion? If not, Senator Rauschenberger moves for the adoption of Senate Resolution 342. Those in favor say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it and the resolution was adopted." [Pg. 26, Illinois senate transcript, 4/18/02]
In contrast, when a similar resolution came before the U.S. Senate in July 2002, Hillary voted against the resolution and issued a press release underscoring her opposition.
What I regret about these recent weeks of dirty politics, is that Barack Obama, through no fault of his own, has been painted, in lurid colors, by the Clinton's(cause let's face it, Bill is running with Hillary this time:)) into a person he is really not. It's obvious that many people didn't know about Obama before this election heated up.
I'm not trying to sway anyone's vote, because we are all going to vote the way according to our own reason. All these heated exchanges and bare naked attempts to appeal to each other's emotions for the benefit of our chosen candidate are not likely to change our minds. But with that said, and no matter if Hillary winds up destroying Barack, or if magically people wind up supporting him in wild numbers again, Barack Obama has honestly led a remarkable political life, and has largely worked toward helping the poor, fighting corporate power, and working to improve health care.
Now, you may be skeptical of that, given all the press coverage and rumors that have been floating around, but it really is true. Read Time Magazines article - http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...
Time's article is clear and concise, but if you'd rather read just a listing of facts on Obama, read the Wikipedia Encyclopedia entry on him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obam...
Barack has lived a fairly noble life, as far as politicians go. So I just don't think its fair the way the media, and the Clinton's are trying destroying his image. he's lead a good life, and honestly believes in the idea that our government would better if we'd minimize bipartisanship polarization. He's one of our better politicians, and even if he doesn't win, he's still going to keep fighting for the common good.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/12/11...
Send this link to everyone you know who votes. Americans and our media seem that this is a two person race. They are dead wrong. Show them that Edwards is the best candidate in the GENERAL ELECTION!!!
On the Democratic side, Edwards performs best against each of the leading Republicans. In addition to beating Huckabee by 25 percent and McCain by 8 percent, the North Carolina Democrat beats Romney by 22 percentage points (59 percent to 37 percent) and Giuliani by 9 percentage points (53 percent to 44 percent).
"Edwards is the only Democrat who beats all four Republicans, and McCain is the only Republican who beats any of the three Democrats," Holland said. "Some might argue this shows that they are the most electable candidates in their respective parties.
THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...
THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...
THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...
THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...
THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!
HILLARY WINS! HILLARY WINS!
NOW THE OBAMA PEOPLE WILL HELP HER IN THE GE, RIGHT.
HILLARY ALL THE WAY!!!
wooo hooo! we did it!
We Love You Hillary! :D
JCJCD - stop spreading your propaganda videos on youtube!
You have been uploading hundreds of videos and have DISABLED the comments and ratings on them because you don't want users to post the reality on your videos!!!!
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT DIRTY! Your smearing tactics are very deceitful and we will get you REMOVED from YOUTUBE for your propaganda and dirty smearing attacks. You are as DIRTY as the party you're campaigning for, the Clintons.
SHAME ON YOU for posting hundreds of videos!! People are catching on to what the Clinton campaign has been up to... Smear campaigns and dirty attacks.
Everyone realizes how dirty the Clinton camp is. SHAME on you jcjcd! Everyone who's against his nasty actions and attacks, complain to YouTube and have jcjcd's videos removed! Be a man and allow people to be able to respond to your videos instead of hiding. You know the truth hurts and you just want to suppress the American people's say! Time to take action against jcjcd!!!