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Published Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 | 4:41 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008 | 10:15 a.m.
Sun Expanded Coverage
(The Sun has gone on the road to listen to voters and talk to political leaders around the West. Reporters have been examining the economic, cultural and demographic forces re-shaping the region as they drove to Denver for the first of the two major party conventions the Sun will cover. This week they are at the Democratic National Convention.)
The day's highlights: Some earnest leftists demand Obama listen to them. Lots of pent-up lefty demand. A national security forum started 30 minutes late so I had to leave, but apparently here's one thing that got said, via TPM by way of The Hill:
Former Secretary of the Navy Richard Danzig, a senior national security adviser to Barack Obama's presidential campaign, said that he has never seen Obama lose his temper, even in situations of "exceptional stress."
By comparison, Obama's GOP rival John McCain is known for "losing it." Danzig said McCain is known for forming an opinion or a decision quickly and then "digs in." McCain's volatile temper is well known to Beltway insiders, but Democrats at their convention are trying to make this known to the larger audience, as part of a tug-of-war about who between the two candidates is prepared to be commander-in-chief.
Same time, McCain launched his own 3 a.m. ad, saying Obama ain't ready to be commander-in-chief.
Rahm Emanuel gently mocked me in an afternoon session at the Ritz.
Several Joe Klein sightings. He always looks on edge and seems to try to read your press pass to see if you're someone he knows/is supposed to know. I assume he's been accosted by liberal blogger meanies a lot. Also, I assisted in recovering a lost iPhone, so that was cool.
Some Nevada young-ins were out last night, and one Jayson Sime, an Iowan who organized the January Nevada Democratic caucus, was quite boastful of the caucus turnout of 120,000, with the number repeated a time or two in my ear. Can't blame him.
Sounds exciting! Keep it comin'...
I can just envision the far-left, looking to THEIR far-left = to try and reach Barry Obama.
Can't you?
No, NV, I can't, because Obama is a CENTRIST. But you're so far out in right field you can't even see that. Anything even slightly to the left of Hitler is "LIBERAL" to you.
BTW, MOST Americans are right down the middle.
How is Obama a centrist?
He has one of the highest liberal voting records in the US Senate.
There is not one MAJOR bill in the Senate where he has compromised his position and reached across the aisle.
Can you name one? If he were a "centrist" then he surely would be on the forefront of fighting for centrist compromises.
He has a long history of associated with EXTREME leftist people. Some of them have conducted domestic terrorist acts with their only regret is that they did not commit more terrorist acts.
His dropped his name "Barry" in college when he embraced socialist black liberation theology.
He was the ONLY state senator to vote against a bill that would have given human full legal rights to babies born in a botch abortion procedure.
The Democrats gave their leftist golden boy the nod.
Now they have to live with that decision.
"No, NV, I can't, because Obama is a CENTRIST. But you're so far out in right field you can't even see that. Anything even slightly to the left of Hitler is "LIBERAL" to you."
Thank you for a reasonable response. You are improving! Wrong, but improving. A pat on the head for you today!
Read another POV?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles...
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"BTW, MOST Americans are right down the middle."
Actually, 60% of Americans classify themselves as "very conservative" or "somewhat conservative. As Karl Rove, Dick Morris, Newt Gingrich and others have said for years, America is a "center-right" nation. It is a matter of getting a huge turnout of conservatives to the polls = Republicans win!
It is the moderate-to-far left (total = 36% very-or-somewhat liberal) and the delusions and lies associated which cloud our nation's politics. Oh, I forgot the lying liberal pimp media which is mostly in the tank for the LSD.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/t...
Michelle O "spoke the words" in her speech about "the world as it is, and the world as it should be" = a line DIRECTLY from Saul Alinsky's 1971 book, “Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals.” ", a guide to "bottom-up" communism by Saul Alinsky(sp). Saul IS a legendary communist/socialist organizer from Chicago who - ims - trained a very young Barry Obama (pre-Barack, i believe?) in radical communist methods and aims as a young "street organizer".
Michelle has these words "spoken to her" by an Alinsky-trained and educated "street organizer" named Barack Obama. Those words "stuck with her to this day"(para).
You bet they did!
Oh, and I forgot.....
Correction: Alinsky died in 1972. His legacy lives on in one Barack Obama.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles...
No longer can anyone blame the mess that the democrats are in on Hillary Clinton. Registered democrats, should be pointing such blame directly at the back room boys and especially those super delegates, who prematurely voted for the incredibly bad judgment and inexperience of the Junior Senator Barack Hussein Obama. Hillary Clinton, should have been the democratic Presidential candidate or at least the VP candidate for the democrat party. Keep smiling...
Why do the Democrats have "Super-delegates", anyway?
Party "insiders" who serve as another layer between the electorate and the political class - what for?
If Ayers, Wright, Trinity church and SO many issues HAD been known at the Nevada Cauci ((I'm still a Romney MAN!) = little-kid socialist racist political puppy Barry Obama Soetoro Obama (just ask me, I dare 'ya!) would have been mopped out of there early.
Barry staggered to the finish-line, while the (Rs) got tons of free attack material. So to speak...
Hillary had always been the strongest, more capable uber-liberal Presidential candidate. Always.
And now, I read that Bill and/or Hillary won't be attending the "Messiah Obama ALL Bow Down Before ME" concert at the Denver Stadium.
Hmmmm.......
McCain seeks an economic plan which will explode the national debt to 5 trillion... 150% higher than Obama's debt. How "conservative" is that? How can Makz and Nance claim Obama is the liberal when his economic policies are more conservative than McCain?
McCain seeks to ignore and cowtow to al Qaeda in Pakistan... a nuclear-armed unstable state. When Huckabee announced he would strike at al Qaeda within Pakistan, McCain said Huckabee was "naieve" and he "lacked the military experience to lead." His repeated insistence that Iraq is the "central front on the war on terror" underlines his complete misunderstanding of the threats to our national security. One might wonder why a decorated veteran would be so "Soft on Al Qaeda."
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/...
Obama has pledged to attack al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, while McCain thinks such a strong and swift action is "naieve." How "liberal" is that?
And Nance, do you forget your precious FISA vote? There's your reach-across.
As for Makz's convervative vs. liberal statistics, how do you measure those against the past presidential elections? Kerry was demonized and portrayed as a far-left liberal in the same way in 2004 as Obama, perhaps even worse. And yet the margin was merely 2.4% in favor of Bush.
Of course, whichever side mobilizes their base will win. But you ignore the fundamental shift that has been seen since 2004. "Among the 26 states with registration data, the percentage of those who have signed on with Democrats has risen in 15 states since 2004, and the percentage for Republicans has risen in six, according to state data. The number of registered Democrats fell in 11 states, compared with 20 states where Republican registration numbers fell."
"In the 26 states and the District of Columbia where registration data were available, the total number of registered Democrats increased by 214,656, while the number of Republicans fell by 1,407,971."
So in which direction is this trending? Obviously, in Nevada and most battleground states, registration numbers are trending in favor of Democrats and against the GOP, even after nominating the most liberal GOP candidate for President.
So if you look at actual registration, rather than a poll number, where people "put their money where their mouth is" so to speak, you see a much different view of where the United States is headed... and it ain't towards Bush-McCain.
You are right.
Obama is now for FISA, attacking Pakistan without Pakistan's permission and for keeping troops in Iraq (up to 80k if he listens to his key advisor).
He now agress with conservatives and is for some limited offshore drilling.
Obama now has a very strong anti-Iran position that probably includes letting Israel attack that country and he has not remove the possibility of US military action against Iran.
Thanks for keeping me straight, theBS.
Last time NV ... either present NON-BIASED sources, or keep your partisan nonsense to yourself.
Your "arguments" are useless. Your penchant for cutesy little nicknames for Democrats borders on the psychotic. All in all, you waste more bandwidth than anyone on these boards.
You'd think you'd have caught a clue at some point.
nance, does your head ever fall off from all that spinning & twisting you do to "make a point"?
Just curious.
Obama was a very leftist person about 7 months ago.
He is getting smarter every day since he clinched the Democratic nomination.
He is agreeing every day more and more with conservatives.
Hell...I might vote for him if he keeps moving to the right.
LOL! That is very true, PatriciaLV! Jfnance32 did a complete 180 in two hours. I'm glad to see even the radical right on this website are beginning to see that they can't simultenously argue that Barack Obama is far-left and far-right at the same time.
But a complete 180 in two hours? That's even faster than John McCain or Mitt Romney's flip flops!
As for this article, I think it is funny that John McCain is releasing a 3 a.m. attack ad when it was revealed yesterday that he sometimes knocks himself out by taking Ambien (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Politics/st...) which has been known to have many crazy side-effects like sleep-driving, sleep-eating and the like.
For someone like John McCain, it's probably sleep-buying-houses! LOL!
The only person that is moving left to right is your pal....Obama.
FYI.....Obama has a brother that lives $1 a month in a shack.
Jfnance32 what do you think about Cindy McCain's near arrest in the '90's for stealing painkillers from a charity?
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/1...
You seem to be really outraged about Barack Obama's brother. Have you sent Mr. Obama some money?
Do you share the same outrage at Cindy McCain's actions?
Do you support Barack Obama's pledge to significantly increase aid to Africa, and are you outraged that John McCain doesn't have a simlar plan to help?
Were you upset when John McCain couldn't remember what his position was on contraceptives in Africa? (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/...) When he said: "Are we on the Straight Talk express? I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it."
Maybe he needs some Aricept to go with his Ambien?
Then I read today that you can't decide if nuclear waste or solar panels are worse for the environment, jfnance32, so you may have some trouble with this one, too! LOL!
So have you made up your mind yet? Is Obama a "leftist" or now is he too conservative? And when you add those two things up, you get exactly what PatriciaLV said... a centrist! You have helped my point. Thank you!
"Last time NV ... either present NON-BIASED sources, or keep your partisan nonsense to yourself.
Your "arguments" are useless. Your penchant for cutesy little nicknames for Democrats borders on the psychotic. All in all, you waste more bandwidth than anyone on these boards.
You'd think you'd have caught a clue at some point."
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Back in to the sewer for you, I guess.
"Last time"??? WoooooOOOooooOOOOooooooo.....
My truthful, relevant and accurate sources (esp. in comparison with leftist manifestos) just make the "truth hurt"(mq) all the more.
What was it that broke you? The communist-trained "street organizer" who "spoke words to" another fellow traveler? The wording of Michelle's speech and the phony and fraudulent "we're JUST LIKE YOU"(mq) speech?
ALL Barry is doing is what liberal POTUS candidates NEED to do in order to cover-up their left-fringe-nut-job pasts. Hide the uber-leftist ACTIONS of the past and "re-brand", temporarily.
From McGovern through to Gore, Kerry and now Barry, only TWO Presidents in the past 32 years with ALL that "street organizing" throughout those three + decades.
EVERY ONE of those modern-day Democratics who had to hide their uber-leftist hearts to cower-up and lie as moderates, too bad it's happening again.
Ride down the downslide with Barry. Where the rubber-meets-the-road, Barry gets tiremarks on his past and his associations. Have at it!
Face facts = you and the other libs here back a COMMUNIST-trained, RACIST-mentored, TERRORIST-associating Chicago-Political Machine POLITICAL PUPPY for POTUS.
"Last time"?? Thanks for the laugh.
Here I was, giving a compliment to you. Must have to deny the facts, historical perspective and truth to keep your "lib-cred" around here, that's the ticket.
PIIZZZZSSSZZZzzzzzzsszz........
Hear that?
It's Barry's momentum hissing away.
"From McGovern through to Gore, Kerry and now Barry, only TWO Presidents in the past 32 years with ALL that "street organizing" throughout those three + decades.
EVERY ONE of those modern-day Democratics who had to hide their uber-leftist hearts to cower-up and lie as moderates, too bad it's happening again."
ADD:
Even worse, we need to eliminate out THE worst, most impotent POTUS in the last 50 years - Jimmah Carter? He's also the worst EX-President as well. PHewwwwww.....
ONE President in the last 28 years for the "Jackass" party(small p).
Present some facts and we'll talk. Until then, keep your screeds to yourself & stop wasting bandwidth.
That sound you heard is your own hot air.
Yada, yada, yada go-eth one who can't take a compliment.
Sorry to have threatened your "board cred"(mq).
Really, I didn't know.