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Published Friday, Sept. 24, 2010 | 5:36 p.m.
Updated Friday, Sept. 24, 2010 | 5:44 p.m.
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Yes, that's what Senate hopeful Sharron Angle told national radio interviewer Jerry Doyle today about that scuffle at last night's Faith Lutheran forum, once again invoking Saul Alinsky. Angle seems to think every Democrat has read his works. Alinsky was a leftist community organizer and Angle loves talking about how her foes are using his techniques to disrupt her.
But can she possibly believe this was a set-up fight? What? As if that stepped on some great news event for her?
Here's the exchange and audio is at right.
Doyle: Last night there was a little bit of a fistacuffs that took place at an event that you were at. The headline in the local paper as you know, ‘So much for the talk, brawl erupts between Angle, Reid supporters.’ Obviously we and you don’t condone violence of any sort. But what happened? I know you were there in person and Harry Reid was there on tape. What happened that it got, a little contentious let’s put it that way?
Angle: Well I think this is a play right out of Saul Alinksky’s rule for radicals. What happens if you don’t want the news to report on the forum and the debate between the two contestants, you try to make a bigger news story. And the news story is the brawl, and so that’s what they did. They staged a fight, that’s the way that I felt it was going. There were two women that were actually looking for a fight, trying to get that to be the top news story and they succeeded.
Doyle: I don’t want to sound macho but when I read the story, the woman said the man hit me first…I looked at the pictures and there’s a physicality that that doesn’t match up with the supposed reality that they were trying to sell out there.
"Lemons to Lemonade Angle" is a woman, or is she? What does she have against women?
What is it with this woman and the crazy conspiracy theories? Anything that doesn't go 100% to her crazy plan is met with some loony accusation of a conspiracy against her!
Every report I've read of the incident says the crowd was rowdy and out-of-control from the moment the event began, and were screaming and cat-calling throughout the non-debate.
So what's more likely? That two people, on opposite ends of the political spectrum got into a scuffle... or that a coven of Alinsky-ite women coordinated an attack plan for weeks to disrupt a boring non-event to scuttle Angle's plan for world domination?
I want to believe that Sharron's a balanced, smart, stable candidate, but every time she's given the chance to exhibit any of those characteristics, she high-tails it back to Crazyland.
She really needs to take a break from the Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh/conspiracy theory echo chamber and come up for air. No wonder her poll numbers have tanked!
Crazy Sharron, you have really have out done yourself this time! If your husband beats you, that is your business. It might explain why he is never with you. Have you seen the latest on CNN about the United Nations meeting? If you don't know what that is, please inform yourself. Several delegations walked out during the speech of the President of Iran. No one hit them. Several years ago when "drop the pants" Ensign was trying to unseat Harry Reid, not one man ever hit a woman. You think this is OK? Was that fat slob your husband? If he tried to hit me, I would have my boyfriend hold him down, and I would kick his butt, myself!!!
It just keeps getting better doesn't it.
It's official. Sharrontology is so batsh*t crazy, she's lost all sense of reality. Someone please send her back to her home... On Area 51!
Scott Dickensheets had an outstanding article today on the news industry. ( http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep... )
Given what he says there, it is not at all unreasonable to think that a group of people, of any political belief, would take advantage of the media's desire to provide entertainment and do something to get attention.
The best description I can think of for today's government and the politicians who inhabit it is this: bread and circuses. And that scares me far more than any weapon can.
Well Sharron, how do the voters know the GOP did not hire the women to stage the event so you could blame it on Democrats???? There is no hope for this country until people start working together to solve the problems.
I think the coverage of this story by the Sun leaves a lot to be desired. Another reporter took the time to interview people who were around and said that some of the bystanders said one of the women pushed the man back into his seat when he tried to get up.
There is a good chance that he was getting up to let them by and they used that as an excuse to set him up. I don't think people should go to debates or forums if they can't shut up and listen. The same goes for interviewers that can't shut up and let the person being interviewed answer the question. Nobody has to agree with what is being said. The people that went to that forum and couldn't keep quiet, whether they were Reid supporters or Angle supporters are a disgrace. They should be ashamed. And the insult to the school that was nice enough to provide a venue for the forum is disgraceful.
Another in a long string of moronic comments from Angle.
The woman is batty and in no way is she qualified to be in the US Senate and making laws for us to live by.
Ms. Angle's take is totally believable, considering what happened in the House of Representatives today where the Democrats invited the comedian Steven Coarsehair (or whatever his name is) to testify before the assembly. What a circus that was!--- and what a total baffoonery by the Democrats!! Yes, Ms. Angle's take is totally believable! The Dems will stop at nothing to make fools of themselves!
OMG, she really thinks we'll believe that this poor woman WANTED her hair pulled and WANTED to be punched by some rude jerk? What is Sharrontology smoking?
She still can't believe that the public doesn't
want her anywhere near public office.
She will believe in November.
"Democrat?! Republican?! Let's call the whole thing off!"
She is right. Reid sent plenty of goons to the event to make a scene and they did. You can call her crazy and extreme all day long, it's not going to change the facts.
Yeah vote her in and O'Donnell.....
both sides of the extreme...suck............
WE NEED THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES!!
Until people realize that then this country as we know it is doomed............
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"WE NEED THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES!!" - NativeNevadian
We have a good third party candidate for Governor, Art Lampitt. You can learn more at http://www.artforgov.com
Heidi Harris (who says Reid staged the car bombing attempt when he was gaming commissioner, even though Sheriff Gillespie and news accounts at the time confirmed the attempt) said on the "Ed Schultz TV Show" that the Reid supporters at the debate were acting like "little piggies."
We now have Kdumb radio talkers like Doyle and Harris part of the Angle campaign. Doyle is only heard live on kdwn, a station in the Victorville area and one in New England. He acts like a tough military leader because he commanded a cardboard spaceship on "Babylon Five" (a failed TV show).
She must be a Downwinder from Area 51
I can't see Angle as a United States Senator. LOL!
Sinister Reid/Goodman agents wearing Saul Alinsky T shirts are disrupting my events.. you betcha..
:-)
One thing that gets me about all this is the fact that Sharron Angle seems to be focused more on pointing fingers at the other side and saying they are to blame...more than condemning people involved for resorting to violence at a peaceful gathering...no matter which side started it or ended it.
I would imagine the ability to have a peaceful gathering, to inform voters on what candidates are all about so they can make a wise choice, would be more important. It's an American thing to peacefully assemble. And it's something we have always prided ourselves in our ability to follow.
So, she can play this off as some kind of intricate plot cooked up to make her look bad. And, I'm sorry, but I really don't see this as a forgotten episode of "The X Files"...the truth is out there...trust no one...there's a conspiracy under every rock, Scully.
From all indications I see, Sharron Angle looks at EVERYTHING as a way of making money for her campaign. So this don't surprise me she paints a picture that didn't even happen. To her, money is more important than trying to set forth ideas to inform people on why they should vote for her. In her world, money is even more important than the truth.
With Sharron Angle it's a trend of blaming Senator Reid for everything all the time. And if, in her mind, that is not good enough, then she propounds the favorite Tea Bag lines of thought processes that it's the evil triumvirate of impending doom comprised of those dastardly foes Obama, Reid and Pelosi...painting them like they are some kind of nefarious villains in a superhero comic book. When the truth of the matter is the fact that those three people are guilty of only one shared common purpose: Trying to fix this country by setting forth policies with an eye on getting us back on track economically. But in Sharron Angle's world and a shared Tea Party idea of utopia, all three of those people are instigating a goal to destroy America, all cooked up by some nonsensical communist islamo nazoid socialist plot or something. And all they are doing is what they have been elected to do...govern and lead.
Her whole strategy of throwing out Tea Party slogans and vague generalities that have no substance nor meat to them is really quite tiring. It's getting to the point that when she talks, people just roll their eyes and think to themselves...okay...there she goes again...wind her up like a clock and she spouts the same stuff that just complains, but don't set forth any solution to anything at all.
I am pretty sure people have made their mind up regarding this Nevada Senate race. And this is even before any debates occur.
We want someone who will work. And not complain all the time. Senator Reid's accomplishments speak volumes. We want him back in. Because to put this crazy woman who is the alternative into office will take us into a very, very scary place.
"Elderly Angry White Tea Partier assaults Reid supporter."
Somewhere along the line, this was bound to be a headline in this campaign.
When you manipulate people in the manner that the extremists from the far right have, results are predictable.
The Tea Party has coalesced into a reasonable facsimile of what it's creators hoped for.
Hatred. Anger. Extremism. "Us against the world."
"Don't you just HATE Harry Reid? Get out there and SHOW IT! He's Anti-American! He's in cahoots
with a Kenyan Marxist-Socialist Koran-reading Moozlim who's intent on RUINING AMERICA! That's their goal!!!
AND he wants to take your Social Security and your Health Care!
You'll be left with NOTHING!!! Is THAT WHAT YOU WANT? NO? Then you better DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
Who are the "Radicals" now?
Michelle Bachmann has been doing the same thing Mangles been doing for years. Google dump michelle bachmann and see some of her crazy stunts. I can not figure out who is nuttier between Mangle, Bachmann, O'Donnell, and Palin. These women I do not think could pass a mental health exam.
Sharon could have said it was an unfortunate event but she has to play to the right wing AM radio listeners and further enflame the situation.
She is hiding behind the cloak of Washington outsider and a fiscal conservative and in reality she is a fundamenlist Christen right wing nutcase.
Angle is N-V-T-S - Nuts!
Harry Reid stayed home in his bunker. What a wuss.
Triple777:
Sen. Reid was in Washington because congress is in session. If he had come here for that debate (or grandstand or brawl - whatever), you would be scolding him for neglecting his job to campaign.
because you know, any time a woman is hit by a man, she was asking for it.
I'd rather have Reid in Nevada debating instead of him being in Washington DC screwing up the country more than it already is.
You all know how deceitful Democrats act. I would believe that the fight was set up! Sharon Angle is the right person to be in the Senate. Harry Reid is taking us down the WRONG path!
I think the brawl is in the Koch Bros.-Americans For Prosperity-Rove-Angle misinformation campaign strategy.
"The Tea Party's Misinformation Superhighway Runs Through Las Vegas"
http://www.truth-out.org/the-tea-partys-...
Anyone else catch the illustrious Heidi Harris defending the man's right to punch the girl in the face even saying she'd do it as well. Well done Heidi. Way to represent Nevada's whacko party on the national media
I was the guy in the blue shirt sitting behind the elderly heavy set guy who ended up trying to calm him down after he instigated the confrontation by not letting the women past him when they got up to leave. He shoved the first woman when she forced her way past him and the situation escalated from there. The Angle supporters exercised their right to be rude during Senator Reid's time and many Democrat's reciprocated in kind during this canned questions and canned answer session. Overall this forum was tailor made for a candidate, Ms. Angle, who can't think on her feet or actually debate if she is forced off her talking points. But this is exactly what she needs to demonstrate as THIS WOULD BE HER JOB on a daily basis in the senate. She was completely ineffective in the state legislature in persuading even those on her side of the aisle to support her positions which should have, if she were a reflective person which she obviously is not, caused her to wonder if those positions were fundamentally wrong, as I think they were.
By the way,
Has anyone ever heard of a child flunking out of kindergarten because of moral confusion?
A fat old man's right to beat and pull the hair of a woman. Crazy Sharron, go to the Middle East where men can cut off your nose and ears because you didn't obey them. I guess you like beatings, your life, not mine! Or go back to your husband, to be beat again. I guess you like it.
It's funny how you dowits can take a few words and write a book, you all are a bunch of clowns in the Las Vegas Sun's Circus... Senator Reid makes a major move to get the Dream Act passed, this anti American Politician, and all you mindless heads can do is comment on something so stupid. It's not Sharron Angle who's crazy; some of you are nothing more that clowns.
Angle says women 'staged the fight'
So Angle knows all about the women. Maybe she knows the women were working for the GOP to stage an event she could blame on the Democrats.
Angle needs to start wearing her tin-foil hat again. I fear that Obama's mind-altering speeches are beginning to turn her brain into mush.
EVERY TIME I hear something from Sharron Angle and I think this woman cannot say anything that makes her look more stupid, deranged, or idiotic, she surprises me again. People may not be all that happy with Harry Reid, and that's a fact. HOWEVER, do you really think people are going to vote this stupid brain addled woman into office?? When I see Sharron Angle, and I hear some of the stupid things that come out of her mouth, she reminds me of someone from my childhood. All neighborhoods have a CAT LADY...a woman that has like 60 or so cats and everyone thinks is nutty as a payday bar. Sharron Angle strikes me as one of those Cat lady types.
Angle is worse than any Cat lady. She's a full-of-crap lady! lol
I was there.
I was in a chapel on a Christian school campus that was full of hate. Hate for our President and his policies. This event was organized and put on for Mrs. Angle by people that hate the fact that they lost the last election. The hate was thick in the air. It was like the Twilight Zone. Hate filled chapel, that is what experienced.
and after all this she still wins. LOL
By Triple777
Sept. 25, 2010
11:05 a.m.
Suggest removal Harry Reid stayed home in his bunker. What a wuss.
++++++++++
Reid was in DC doing his job -- Congress is still in session.
Sharron Angle doesn't know her Saul from her Alinsky. The GOP has told their candidates to invoke this person's name almost everytime they go out campaigning this election season. And my guess is that many voter or potential voters are saying to themselves, "Saul who?" When Angle was running for Congress in 2006, I never her or any candidate mention Alinsky once. Now he is the big Republican talking point. Baaa.....
Harry Reid is EVIL.
Hey two ladies who were shoved and punched by a fanatic fat man for the sin of walking out in front of him while Sharron Angle was making a speech--there are people who are saying you started a fight, you shoved, you punched. There are photos and video that contradict that and nothing that verifies that, but hey, to Sharon Angle fans videotape is just a myth. You better watch out, this guy might file charges on you or sue you.
I do not understand how anyone can take Ms. Angel seriously. Her assertions, comments, and illogical views make me worry about about our country. The election seems to be descending into an anti-intellectual free-for-all, appealing to the lowest common denominator of citizenry.
Saw this one coming a mile away. Knew it was only a matter of time before the Angle camp twisted what happened until it was disfigured into something unrecognizable.
I was there, too. And yes, some of the Reid supporters yelled out from time to time. I guess they couldn't contain themselves after the Angle folks started kicking the dirt around. It was interesting to note that when Angle's supporters objected to something Reid was saying, they didn't comment specifically on the issue. No. What they did instead was to call him names and make derogatory comments.
Angle must be getting desperate. And her people are getting desperate, too. They can't win a race on their principles or their plans so they're attacking anyone and anything they can instead.
And Angle supporters, you could be next. Nothing is off limits in her game.
B***S***. that crump teabagger try to push that lady over the seat. then had the balls to punch her.
people who vote for her only going to hurt state more
Senator Reid is Crazy-
Can you believe how Senator Reid Voted on Illegal Immigration: doe's this sound like a Man who cares about his country?Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)++++ Senator Reid even lied on his latest tv ad saying that he NEVER was in support of illegal aliens receiving social security: Look at his record,and listen to his Ad- Reid is out right lying. He's giving this country away.
Voted YES on Congressional pay raise. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
Voted NO on protecting middle-income taxpayers from a national energy tax. (Apr 2009)
Voted YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program. (May 2007)
Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
Reject photo ID requirements for voting. (Sep 2005) )
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)
Voted YES on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
And here are some of Angle votes: "...given the opportunity to vote in favor of legislation seeking to implement protection orders for battered women -- she acted directly against their interests.
During the 2001 session of the Nevada Legislature Angle had the opportunity to support A.B. 581... on April 27, 2001 Assemblywoman Sharron Angle voted against allowing Nevada law enforcement personnel from acting upon restraining orders from other jurisdictions.
Candidate Angle's been on the opposition side of women's health issues as well. Once again, her opposition is a matter of public record. During the 2003 Legislative session Angle voted against mandatory health insurance coverage for colorectal cancer, S.B. 183. On May 16, 2003 Angle was one of only two votes against the bill. On April 23, 2010 she advocated removing all mandated coverage from health insurance policies sold in Nevada -- that would include mammograms, prostate cancer screenings, cervical cancer, direct access to OB/GYN services, and autism diagnosis and treatment. [Kaiser] Her position would also lead to the deletion of coverage for HPV vaccinations for girls in Nevada. [NCSL] In short, Angle would not support telling any health insurance corporation that it must include basic medical screening, preventative medicine, or specific treatments for women and children in Nevada." (from the Desert Beacon)
jw456- I was very concerned with what you suggest that Mrs. Angle might be against protecting women who are or were abused in a domestic violent issue, so I looked up the bill, No where in that bill did it say that Sharron Angle is against protecting Women from domestic violence, in A.B 581 they were voting on a provision, the bill was already in place, Senator Reid ,and this paper try to make it seem as though she was against protecting women, what a LIE- This is part of what the bill says, everyone should look it up for themselves, I hope that this is one of the thing that come back to bite lying Senister Reid, like the illegal immigration thing. You should Read ALL of the bill, it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Sharron Angle not wanting to support Women.Assembly Bill 581: Makes various changes concerning orders for protection against domestic violence. (BDR 3-480)
Chairman Anderson opened the hearing on A.B. 581.
Ms. Nancy E. Hart, Deputy Attorney General, Office of the Attorney General, introduced A.B. 581. She referred the committee to the letter she submitted, which summarized the bill (Exhibit YY). She also submitted a letter from Patricia A. Lynch, of the Nevada Domestic Violence Prevention Council, which stated their support of the bill (Exhibit ZZ). Chairman Anderson accepted them into the record.
Ms. Hart summarized that the purpose of the bill was to clarify provisions in NRS 33.090 with regard to registration and full faith and credit of orders for protection against domestic violence that were issued by other states, territories, or Indian tribes. She noted that the orders were often called "foreign protection orders." She read from Exhibit YY, and explained that the full faith and credit language stemmed from the federal Violence Against Women Act of 1994 (VAWA). She mentioned it was first adopted into Nevada law in 1997, NRS 33.090, and amended in 1999 to clarify that the foreign protection order did not need to be registered in order to be given full faith and credit. The confusion remained since 1999, because the provisions governing the registration and the enforcement of the foreign protection orders were contained in the same statute. She stated that A.B. 581 would separate the registration procedures from the full faith and credit.
jw453- Senator Reid said on a very recent TV ad, that he have never supported giving social security to illegal aliens, but his voting record, which is recorded on Congress's web site say that Senator Harry Reid
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Then Senator Reid have the gall to say that Sharron Angle is lying on him.... I invite any of Reids Supporters to comment on this.
Why don't you think about what I just stated? Senator Harry Reid have a TV ad going right now, saying that he NEVER supported any measure which would allow illegal aliens to get social security! Not one of his supporters will touch that FACT.
(2). Why do you think that he would vote AGAINST English being our National Language? Dual languages are costing the United States billions. When you get you voting ballot, it will be in Spanish and English, why no other languages like Korean, or Russian, or German? Why Spanish, or English, Politicians like Reid caters to voting blocks, he's told so many lies that he can't keep up with them. Sharron Angle will be better for this job, she cares about America, and the people, including the women of this nation, please don't mention the abortion thing, I am against Abortion also, some call Mrs. Angle extreme, they use the "she said that even if a woman was raped, or incest was involved she is still against it". These killers never mention that 98% of abortions are because a woman doesn't want to be inconvenience with the child, or she doesn't want her husband to know that she cheated on him, or that wild animal inside of her couldn't control itself. Have sex responsibly, and in about 2% of abortions are due to the women's health incest, or rape.
Senator Reid voted (YES) to give our tax dollars to sanctuary cities like LA. Whose Mayor is an ardent racist- Mayor Valigrosa, or whatever his name is; is for a total take over on the Mexican race. If you think I'm just saying that go to La Rasa's web site. Some of you Democrats are really Dumocrats. I hope you're not one.
Reid is a failure so sends out his thugs - takes a page out of the old Las Vegas/Searchlight game book.
Reid has destroyed the economy; Reid has destroyed the family values; Reid has destroyed health care; Reid allows illegals to murder ranchers; Reid is a failture.
So he sends in his thugs as we all know Reid has failed.
Many do hate Obama - as he has destroyed what is good about AmeriCA. Obama hates half of America; his wife is a mean spirited lady who travels lavishly at taxpayer expense. Yeah - Reid political camp writes replies in the Las Vegas Sun to try to cover up the harm Reid has caused on Nevada economy; home values; and so much more. Harry has destroyed the American family....
So why do we hate Obama - because we cherish family more then him. Obama hates family. He and his wife allows his sister to live in homeless shelters at tax payer expense - and does not care a hoot about families. Obama is a bad family man - who used tax payer money to send his daughter to Europe; closed down European beaches - instead of keeping the money in the United States.
Obama - bad for America, bad for Nevada; bad for families in the state.
pmont, You are truly a sick person. "She couldn't control the wild animal inside her????" Go to the Middle East where you are apparently from. OR beat your wife, as you see fit. You will never take MY COUNTRY FROM ME!!! Get me boy? Never talk about the man taking any responsibility? Of course, NOT! You must have come from the same psycho ward,PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, go back and get yourself some seriously needed help.