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StumblePublished Saturday, July 10, 2010 | 3:58 p.m.
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Spent a couple of hours today at the state GOP convention at the Green Valley Ranch – listened to the major speeches (limited to 10 minutes each) and then decided to enjoy the weekend.
Some thoughts:
----Sharron Angle: The GOP Senate nominee, who had some of her DC handlers in town as well as at least one RNC official, stayed pretty much on script today. She said Dick Morris, the current FOX News contributor and RJ muse, told her “the fate of the nation rides on you.” Wow – with great power, Ms. Angle, comes great responsibility.
She unleashed familiar, crowd-pleasing lines: “Harry Reid is not too big to fail; he’s failed already.” She detailed the Obama “progressive agenda” and said Reid “has failed us, has failed America.” She invoked Ronald Reagan – I believe this is required at GOP conventions – and expressed admiration for the Laffer curve and asserted “Keynesian economics doesn’t work.”
On Social Security, she was at her most expansive yet. She called it a “little myth” she needed to dispel and said she does not “want to eliminate Social Security. I’m out to save it.” Huge applause followed from an apparently amnesiac crowd that forgot she recently said she wants to “phase out” Social Security But that was then (primary); this is now (general). Angle then went into the Reid-raiding-the-lockbox mantra and said the Treasury Bonds in the trust fund are “IOUs.” Then more of the standard stuff: Repeal Obamacare. Cut spending. It’s all about the economy.
She also said she would support the party’s platform, which drew the loudest ovation and a standing one. Candidates usually run from party platforms because they contain nutty things, as the draft GOP platform does – opposition to “one-world government,” for instance. Wonder if they will remove that for final version.
Found it interesting that Angle’s folks pushed back when I Tweeted that the draft platform talks about supporting storage (as well as reprocessing) of nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain, saying their candidate backs reprocessing but not storage. Note I said the draft platform says it, not her – and I got two pushbacks, one in person and one via email,
Two points: One, Angle finally has a rapid response team. Two, the issue is that the waste still has to get to Yucca, even if it’s reprocessed. Some folks might agree that the dump site needs to be used for something – some might even think reprocessing is a good idea – but no one can deny transportation could be an issue, despite the lack of any serious accidents transporting low-level waste.
----Brian Sandoval: The gubernatorial contender framed his speech around a “the Nevada I know” theme, a shining state on the hill attempt that did, well, shine at times. He accused Rory Reid of believing “big government is the only answer” and declared the state “needs a leader who won’t shy away from getting Nevada back on its feet…. someone who trusts you the people, not the government.”
Sandoval then went more directly at Rory 2010 by declaring, with the strains of CCR in his head, “I ain't no senator’s son.” And then this: “Unlike Rory Reid, I am not ashamed to tell you where I came from, who I am and who I’m related to.”
He did his best Jim Gibbons next, saying “raising taxes is the wrong way to go.” He said “we have to get Nevada working again…the Nevada we know.” Nice rhetorical framing, although he didn’t exactly stir the crowd with his relatively flat delivery. The CCR line, though, went over well.
Sandoval took time for a press gaggle afterward and said the reference to Rory/big government was “his experience as a county commissioner…he grew government and increased fees.” I asked him if he was claiming Rory is “a big government liberal.” His reply: “Yes.” Telegraphed that line of attack there. More conflation with Dad.
When asked about the teacher layoffs accusation that Rory keeps bringing up, Sandoval was unusually blunt: “That’s a lie.” He said his short-term budget plan never recommended layoffs, although one scribe (Steve Sebelius) pointed out if the unions didn’t agree to cuts, layoffs would or must result.
On debates, Sandoval said there will be three – North, South and rural. And he claimed within “weeks,” he will have a long-term budget plan to deal with that looming deficit. He said Gov. Jim Gibbons is allowing department heads to meet with him or his campaign and that he wants to take time, review the 68 recommendations from the Nevada Taxpayers Association. “It’s a very complicated issue,” he said. Indeed. So then how, I asked, can he Gibbonslike, reduce such a complicated issue to “no new taxes.” His answer: Taxes are bad, wrong for state at this time, etc.
Finally, Sandoval said Gibbons has not called to congratulate him, has not endorsed him and they have not spoken. He seems about as eager to get Gibbons’ endorsement as Harry Reid is to debate Sharron Angle.
---Joe Heck: The CD3 hopeful was easily the most rousing speaker at the event so far. He stirred up the crowd and showed real fire (anger, perhaps?) in responding to Rep. Dina Titus’ comments on “Face to Face” this week that he was “scamming” the health care system by having different government jobs. He truly seemed passionate and maybe irate and declared to her: “You will not be able to scam” CD3 residents.
Bottom line: Event was well attended – 550-plus delegates and no super-gaffes (pending final platform) to report from major candidates.
"She called it a "little myth" she needed to dispel and said she does not "want to eliminate Social Security. I'm out to save it."
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Roll tape, back to the multiple times she's publicly advocated "phasing out" both Social Security and Medicare.
Crazy Sharron Angle can't be trusted. I would have a lot more respect for her if she stood up and said she wanted to eliminate Social Security. A true Tea Party member would want to eliminate all entitlement programs. Sharron Angle has no guts and is just another old tired recycled politician. Angle won't support the largest casinos in town. Angle has now voiced the extreme position that she is against abortion in cases of rape and incest. The only myth is that Sharron Angle will do anything to help Nevada while reducing the spending in Washington.
So Gibbons is having bureau chiefs meet with Sandoval but refuses the same bureau chiefs speak to the Legislative IFC?
One reason he says he will not allow their presence at the IFC meetings is because they need to work on getting Nevada going, they do not have time to meet. Now we find out he is having them waste their time, on our dime, to meet with a candidate?
Mr. Reid should be able to have his way with this one.
The new Angle or the old Angle is the question.
The Angle now running in the general election, then we will all see the same ole Angle if she wins.
God save us...
"She also said she would support the party's platform, which drew the loudest ovation and a standing one. Candidates usually run from party platforms because they contain nutty things, as the draft GOP platform does -- opposition to "one-world government," for instance. "
And you wonder why they're called NutJobs???
Tha Aliens are coming! The Aliens are coming!
Run for your lives!!!
Meet the new Crazy Angle.
Same as the Old Crazy Angle.
Run for your LIVES!!!
"I ain't no senator's son." -- Sandoval
This is from a person running for Governor of NV. Could someone coach this man so that he may improve his English language skills.
Bravo Repukeblicans!!!!!
When it comes to Dirty Harry Democrats continue to be stuck in the mud.Come out and play out of your box! Massive explosive debt farther than the eyes can see. Is that what you want? Who has been the majority in Congress these last 4 years? Harry Reid has ruined Las Vegas for good. He has it where you can't find any safe place for your money. Certainly NOT in Las Vegas real estate,or in the stock market,or anywhere else except in your savings acct. YES! cash, where it is out of circulation with no stimulation for the economy. This is what it has come to! Hide your money from the Govt,from Obama,from Dirty Harry! ANYONE would be better than him.....ANYONE!!!
"Unlike Rory Reid, I am not ashamed to tell you where I came from, who I am and who I'm related to."
Ask him what flavor Hispanic he is. He should have by now identified with some Spanish speaking country other than Taco Bell.
psycho sharron is a LIAR!!!
a backtracking LIAR!!!
a don't look at my old website LIAR!!!
Nothing special there, Jon Raslton was pretty tame being a liberal amongst the Republicans and conservatives. If the liberals would quit being so far out there it would allow people like me to come back and vote for some of their good candidates. Unfortunately all they can do these days is call names and mock respectable people.
Not sure which is worse, Jon's written articles or his biased boring tv program. Living proof of Nevada's mediocre reporters.
Nuclear waste at Yucca will be stored until reprocessed then stored till shipped out?
Japan, France, Britain and the USA reprocessing is/was done by the OCEAN. Most of the 100 or so existing reactors can't use reprocessed fuel. What scientist says you can reprocess at YUCCA.??
Wait I got it! She is going to reprocess Social Security recipients at Yucca!
Seniors and nuclear waste in, nuclear fuel and soylent senior out. This beats "soylent green" any day of the week. Good thinking Sharon.
Republicans lie and can NEVER be trusted again.
Why would anyone want these lying,crazy
republicans back in office.
They already run on a platform of total failure.
Angle wants to repeal health care reform.
This alone, disqualifies this lunatic.
She wants to privatize Social Security.
That will dismantle Social Security.
These greedy,crazy republicans have already
done enough damage to our country.
Keep these fools out of office.
LOL @mred - fantastic analogy!!
I adore Ralston - smart, liberal and hot too!!
Sorry Mrs. Ralston!! :)
Reid should get tough and realize his "friend" Ensign is out stabbing him in the back. He should run an ad attacking Ensign and Angle for opposing unemployment insurance and help for people in fraudulent mortgages.
Ensign is hiding behind Angle's sheet to save his perverted political corpse. Man-up Harry and use the political ammo Angle left at you doorstep.
"Unfortunately all (the liberals) can do these days is call names and mock respectable people."
Sharron Angle? John Ensign? Michael Steele? Bush 44? Respectable? BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA! You guys crack me up.
jbkayaker12: It may be bad grammar, but "I ain't no senator's son" is a lyric from "Fortunate Son," a Creedence Clearwater Revivial protest song from the '60s. Sandoval's citation of this song is as misguided as when the St. Ronald-era Republicans used Springsteen's "Born In The USA" at political rallies:
"Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just covering up
"Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years down the road
Nowhere to run, ain't got nowhere to go
"I'm a long gone Daddy in the U.S.A."
Actually, maybe it wasn't so misguided on their part after all - that's pretty much how it's turned out for a lot of Americans, isn't it? The rights and the future of the American worker began to dry up the instant St. Ronald fired the Unionized air traffic controllers back in '81. And so it goes, on and on.
You Republicans may return to worshiping your graven (craven?) idols now.
King Barry Obama visited the city this week. The one he wants no one to go to. In back of him was his puppet master Prince Harry. But wait a minute. The puppet master has a child, actually a few of them. You understand how that works. You have lots of babies but support politicians that want to kill them. Now the one with the first name only: Pele, no, Cher, no, Caligula, no, no, no. Rory, you know, the one with the first name only. The one running for Governor ashamed to be seen with the others, let alone take the Prince's last name. Rory is not like the others. He wants to distance himself from the other thiefs. He knows the outcome in November. It's hell when your own kids abandon you, isn't it Harry?
Three debates, north, south and rural. Well, chalk north and rural up for the team in blue, no question about it. Too bad the votes are in SOUTHERN Nevada.
Taxation in Nevada is complicated?
No, it's not "complicated". Persons who opposed investment in the community they live in beyond the gated communities and glass ceilings of executive management in the strip corridor make it that way, only because there aren't enough educated voters, or voters PERIOD (see last election turnout numbers, sad) among the working class to know the truth from the fiction, or should we say one more time, "complicated".
Damage control that is the new platform for Angle try to talk back all of the scary ideas she has and believes in. That is like putting lipstick on a Pig to make it look better. Sharron be careful a house may fall on you. Republicans say no new taxes but they called them "Fees" when they were in power to get more money. Angle and friends are what is scaring new businesses away from Navada would you invest in an state if she is elected where she would let the insane run the insane asylumn.
BCDave...
Get help!
Dhvincent...
I dispute what you cannot.
Vehemently.
Angle may be scaring some of you alright but its not about what she believes. Its because Reid is fighting for his political life as he should be. The tens of thousands unemployed in this State intend to remind him how much he is appreciated for making this state almost number one in job loses. Enjoy your retirement Senator its the least the voters can do in november to show how much we really think of you.
President Obama was asked, and gladly accepted, an invitation to come to Nevada and campaign for Sen. Reid.
On the other side, Angle held a fundraiser and the keynote GOP speaker was...Michael Steele?
Is it just me or is anyone else wondering whatever happened to the 43rd president, GW Bush? Why isn't the former president out on the campaign trail helping GOP candidates raise money and get elected, the role former presidents have always had in US politics in both parties? It's as if Bush never existed at all and was never in office for eight disastrous years as our nation went from the peace and prosperity of the Clinton Administration to the worst economy since the Great Depression and two mismanaged, money-sucking wars.
We know why GW Bush is MIA on the campaign trail: Because he's the worst president our nation has had in over 125 years, having left office and with 29% approval ratings. The result of his time in office speaks for itself and that's why no candidate wants W within a thousand miles of their campaign. It's also why Democrats must do everything we can to keep the incompetent republicans from regaining power again, ever.
Not to worry folks, it's only a "little myth" that Sharron wants to eliminate SS. What a relief, huh?
As far as Harry fighting for his political life goes, that probably is a good thing.
Dems need to start acting like true Dems if they want the base to show up this time.
why are these loons still calling the name of Ronnie Reagan to help them? the man was a catastrophe in the white house, did little to help the eastern european nations against the old USSR and wasted BILLIONS on military hardware (star wars,etc). the man was senile years before he left office and did NOTHING for the common american; Reagan was a disaster.
dipstick,
Because St. Ron, the B grade Hollywood actor, is the best they've got on their disasterous resume of accomplishment for the last sixty years.
Since Eisenhower it's been all bad for the Teabag Party.
Sharron Angle is frantically walking back all her comments. "I didn't say apples. I said oranges." And it's not working. Don't get me wrong. I can understand when someone makes a mistake and says something they shouldn't. But with Sharron Angle, it's pretty much on EVERYTHING she says. This makes her untrustworthy, dishonest and not truthful. She wants to do things only that will make her electable, not things that she believes in. She's playing for votes and not revealing her warped ideals.
From the article, it states that Republican handlers are in town. To work with her, I guess. If you ask me, they have their job cut out for them.
They brought Brasso, silver polish, Mr. Clean by the gallon, bleach, shamois, oil cloth and towels.
They have from now til November 2nd to use elbow grease to polish a huge chuck of coal into a sparkling diamond.
But I think they'll have to buy paint and try to disguise it. That's the only thing that will work with the disaster that Sharron Angle is. I would say she's pretty much a catastrophe.
Her views are too nutty. And by trying to walk back things, she is only being transparent in her continuing ability to try to deflect practically every issue that comes her way.
When she was in State Government, she was pretty much shunned then. Because she voted no on everything. They didn't call her "41 To Angle" for nothing. If she gets elected to the U.S. Senate (God forbid!), this trend will continue. She will do absolutely nothing. Because when you vote no on everything, it leaves you with no decision making abilities on anything at all. She would only serve herself, not the people. Just another run of the mill Republican Senator who only wants to languish with greed, power, money and self importance.
Its pretty obvious that the Reid team has all of their pollsters working here on both the Sun and LVRJ boards...obvious by the continuity of the message.
hey gmag39, can't answer the question where Rory was. Maybe he was with Oscar Goodman and Wayne Newton but certainly was not with the old man. Easy to attack me because that's what you people do. Just continue to avoid the issue.
I think most people forget. Both her and husband have government retirements paid with tax dollars. Her theory I got mine now I am here to take your away so I can look like I am saving Anerica. Notice she never talks about taking away Nevada PERS (state retirement nor fed retirenebt) just social security, Obamacare. Because her and husbands both healthcare and retirement paid foe with TAX DOLLARS.
people that support her, deserve her. we should have 2 forms of governing, if you vote repub, dismantle everthing for people that voted for you, lets see how long your party would stay alive, all you'd have left is bunch of rich as------.
I feel sorry for Brian Sandoval and Joe Heck, having to share a stage with Michael Steele and Sharron Angle. It's tough to look like a credible, well-informed, serious candidate in that company. But then, you guys also have Jim Gibbons and John Ensign, don't you? [shakes head] Boy, I can remember when the Republicans used to call themselves "The Party of Ideas." Now, they can't even make that case that they have a clue.
I don't understand even one person voting for sharron angle - how can anyone be so out of touch. pure evil is all she is. these tea-partiers are such a contradiction - they call for less government but not less pay for what our elected officials receive for their new jobs of not doing anything. $175,000.00 is alot of money to do nothing. So where is the lack of money felt? no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, no unemployment benefits, sparse police force, no street lights, no playgrounds, no money for roads or infrastructure. sounds delightful, doesn't it tea partiers/angle lovers. Thank God for Ralston. He is the light that shines on the sins of these conservatives and keeps their crap in the media. oh, and Reagan? oh my God. i can't believe anyone would want to remind the voters of that joke.
A BEGGAR'S BANQUET:
Please allow me to introduce myself...I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year...Stolen many a man's soul and faith
Please to meet you... hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you... is the nature of my game
Rolling Stones..."Sympathy for the Devil"
Mr. Sandoval, my advice to you would be to save money, combine your resources with Meg Whitman the Republican Governor candidate of California because you two can make one ad together.
Because if you two have such a contempt for the Hispanic community to think that they are going to fall for this game, then you are truly Devils. And if you two do win, I will be happy to be a server at your "BEGGAR'S BANQUET".
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Speaking of S.S. -- No myth here -- I simply desire the funds confiscated over the decades by the S.S. ponzi-scheme to be returned with compounded interest -- will Angle assist in returning my funds?
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I might be wrong but I view 'entitlement programs' as those which the taxpayers didn't kick in for - programs such as Social Security, to me at least, are NOT entitlement programs at all - one look at the deductions from my paycheck convinces me of that....
All my life, I have worked in jobs that portions of my paychecks contributed into Social Security. I was given the privilege to serve my country and I willingly made this sacrifice to my country without complaint.
By paying into Social Security, it ensured that Americans who reached their golden years had some money. It's called Americans taking care of Americans. And I was happy to provide this much needed financial assistance. Doing my part as an American.
Now, I am reaching a time in my life when I will soon receive Social Security. And it will be a sizable portion of money. Because every job I have ever worked contributed money to it.
I don't look at this like a "free handout." It's just something that was set up previously as a method for Americans to take care of Americans. I'm not looking to make money off of it. It's just something that I have no shame in saying that I am entitled to it. I took care of others. Now, it's my turn. And I know that others will be happy to take care of me.
The point I'm trying to get to is that I'll be damned if an idiot like Sharron Angle gets her hands on it. First, she says she wants to get rid of it. Next thing that comes out of her piehole is she wants to "privatize" it. Then, I guess in some scholarly burst of incredible wisdom that penetrated through her brain pan cavity, she changes and wants to "personalize" it. Hell, she keeps throwing crap out there, this tells me she has no clue what the heck she is talking about. And this was evident from the beginning.
If what she is getting at is she wants to change the whole game plan and put Wall Street in charge of an important social program in the U.S. so they can make money off of it, and in turn contribute it to her future political career, then I say this....
Sharron Angle can go commit an unnatural sex act upon herself.
She should be ashamed of herself for even trying to change something that has proven successful in the U.S.
I am so tired of creepy, know nothing Republicans all trying to change Social Security.
I am on record right now. I will do anything in my power to make sure an idiot like Sharron Angle doesn't get her grubby hands on Social Security. Heck... I don't even want her to talk about it anymore. Because everything she says about it flip flops and gets even more absurd.
Just my take on it....
Wow... It's pretty obvious that the liberals greatest fear of Sharron Angle stems from the fact that she just might actually represent the wishes and do the work of the people that will hopefully elect her in November. How very scary, radical and out of step with the Reid, Pelosi, Obama agenda.
She might actually read a Bill before voting on it. She might actually consider if a Bill is constitutional and affordable or not. Worst of all, Angle may insist that the fundamental change from capitalism to socialism America is going through come to a screeching halt before more damage is done.
It is funny that she has the idea that raising taxes in the middle of a painful recession might not be the way to go. She must be just plain crazy to point out that Social Security is broke and the money that rightly belongs to the people that have paid into it for years has been replaced with worthless bonds and I.O.U's
Yes, if I was a liberal progressive socialist too, I would be shaking in my boots right about now. Is Harry Reid really to big to fail?
Someone better tell him in his own words, Harry, "The War Is Lost." He better start working on his concession speech and forget about running up more debt to fix the debt. There aren't that many people in Nevada stupid enough to follow Reid over a cliff and ACORN won't be able to stuff the ballot boxes this time around.
She is full of crap, that's what she said.
mred
soylient seniors could save our bacon, bro.
Glow-in the-dark geezers that double as French friers and Frank Sinatra
Sing and sizzle in the same breath
Wow, driller. If you think Sharron Angle will represent the people, then clouds are made of cottage cheese. Every indication shows she has not one single clue what she is talking about.
If she were elected into the U.S. Senate, her past history clearly exhibits that she will read a bill, then vote no. She won't care if it is constitutional or not. She votes no on EVERYTHING. She did that in State Government. So that she could pay attention to raking in money and crony politics, not representing her constituents. They didn't give her the nickname "41 To Angle" for nothing.
Another fallacy you mention in your comment is that Social Security is going broke or is broke. No basis in fact on that comment. Social Security is not broke, nor is it getting close to getting broke. The closest it came to controversy was when Ronald Reagan changed it around and moved the age limit up.
Contrary to popular belief, taxes have not went up. The only taxes that will go up is when tax cuts for the rich set forth by President Bush is soon to expire. And guess what? They NEED to expire. The rich have gotten away with murder for at least 30 or so years now. They have not paid their fair share of taxes compared to the middle or low income taxes. Per capita, they pay the least right now. Tax 'em.
We are running up a debt. But there is a difference between running up the debt now over the previous administration. President Obama and his administration do their best to cover debts. Not like President Bush who didn't pay for two wars and other programs he instituted. He could care less about where the money came from.
I'm tired of conservatives always mentioning in the same breath of something they don't understand by just labeling it "socialism." If you were to look up the meaning of that word, you'll be surprised to note that the U.S. is far from practicing that form of government. Find another catch word. Might I suggest "Islamo communist nazoid?"
And lastly, there you go with Fox PORNO (Political Organization-Republican News Only) News talking point propaganda about ACORN. Everyone believes to their soul that video that replayed over and over again on Fox News about that young convicted criminal news guy who played a pimp and caught ACORN officials doing wrong...was totally and completely made up. An unbiased panel was formed in California to investigate wrongdoing by ACORN. They came back that, as it turns out, Fox News heavily edited that footage to show something that didn't happen. Particularly, where the person who walked in dressed up like a leftover from a poorly made 1970s black exploitation film version of a pimp was made up. He wore regular street clothes. So quit being influenced by Fox "Fair And Balanced" News. Score one for the ultra conservatives. They destroyed ACORN. But they didn't destroy American spirit.
Angle is just like Palin, a simple LIAR. Period.
Halibut
Sandoval is running for the office of Governor in Nevada and not trying out for a lead in a karaoke band.
Idiot Repukeblicans!!!!
Talking about Sara Palin, tryhonesty, it was just revealed that her PAC donated $2,500.00 to Sharron Angle!
Birds of a feather flock together, I guess....
Cuckoo birds....
"If you squint and shade your eyes with the palm of your hand, you can see Yucca Mountain from here...."
irish
Hahahaha put a lipstick on a pig and Angle still is an ignorant pig. No amount of hiding and backtracking can clean this ignorant white thrash!!!
Bravo Repukeblicans!!!
It speaks ill of the average intelligence of Americans to have anybody supporting those such as Angle, Palin, et al.
Sandoval is Nevada's Quitter Palin. He may not be a Senator's son but he is a Dick Cheney bootlicker.
I'm voting for "none of the above."
You fall in the category of conservatives who have no alternative but to call people names, gogowhitesox. Which pretty much makes you irrelevant. Because you have no substance to any argument at all.
But one thing is for sure...
If you believe in history to repeat itself in November 2010, and you believe it's going to happen because in the past the party that's in power loses seats, it's not going to happen.
The problem with your reasoning is that the Republican Party has done absolutely NOTHING to show the American people they have anything to offer. When the Republican Party does nothing, votes no on everything, and basically shows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that provides any value to help the American people, even programs that are normal day-to-day routine operations of U.S. Government, programs that are pretty much required things that need to be done to operate...then you are sorely misinformed.
The American people see this. When the Republican Party voluntarily changed from the Party Of No to the self-proclaimed Party Of Hell No, then there is absolutely no way they can be trusted with any power at all.
Period.
Just the way it is.
The Republican Party is a prisoner of their own propaganda.
If you are expecting me to call you names, gogowhitesox, you need to look elsewhere. Because I believe in political discourse the way it's supposed to be done. A way that the Founding Fathers of our nation wanted it done: Civil and with respect.
So, I may pee you off by not calling you names. But don't hold that against me.
For some reason, you want to paint President Obama and his administration as the anti-Christ. But that is far from the truth.
To look at it realistically, in order for President Obama and his administration to get us out of this incredible economic hole that President Bush and his failed policies for eight years put us in, he is pretty much required to spend money.
To throw it out there that he is spending too much money is basic propaganda. Because you aren't telling anyone what happened in the past.
In order to get us out of this hole, we HAVE to spend some money. It's obligatory. To look at it any other way, even along party lines, is incredibly stupid.
Because to do nothing will put us further in a hole. In 1937, FDR caved in to policy and quit spending; thereby extending the Great Depression for another horrible four years.
When you are at the bottom of a hole and trying desperately to dig yourself out, it's just the way it is.
But then again, gogowhitesox, in the incredible fish bowl way of thinking of an ultra conservative, it's easy to paint the Democrats as spending too much. It's that Tea Party way of thinking. I understand.
But you are not explaining it right. You are only explaining it according to your narrow, horse-with-blinders view of how it should be happening.
I know I speak for everyone when I say that there is absolutely no way in hell are we going back to those failed President Bush administration care-free spending policies.
On the contrary, we are trying to get out of those incredible short-sighted and failed policies.
Oh, please, gogowhitesox. Quit with this Ronald Reagan crap.
I am a retired Navy veteran. During the Reagan years, we had Secretary of the Navy Lehman who basically snowed President Reagan and tried to build a 500 ship Navy.
They got to a 500 ship Navy. But only if you count row boats and canoes and surfboards. Ronald Reagan, along with Secretary of the Navy Lehmah, basically ran us into a ditch. And I can safely say that the U.S. Navy is STILL paying for those excesses of the Reagan paranoid years.
You seem to want to glorify failed policies of past Republican Presidents who all basically knew how to do easy stuff like get the American citizens to pay attention to foreign hostility along with cutting taxes to the rich as well as letting corporations do whatever they want.
All of these above policies are coming back to bite us in the rear end right now. As evidenced by BP, the West Virginia mine explosion and the Wall Street too big to fail debacle.
I am so tired of failed Republican strategies.
President Obama's administration, Senator Reid being a part of it, show they are trying to rectify all these idiotic policies set forth by Republicans that basically drove us into a ditch.
YOU are still the pea brain, gogowhitesox. Because you don't see reality. You won't even see it even if the U.S. is driven down into third world status. Because of your unflinching loyalty to Republican masters.
All I know is that if Republicans get into power, they basically screw it up.
The track record don't lie.
To try to say anything else is an incredible fabrication.
If you pay attention to xenophobia and corporations, gogowhitesox, it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the United States. Other than deflect people's attention away from problems within the United States.
And I'm so glad we have an administration that knows this.
So, suck it up, gogowhitesox. Your people ain't in power. Work with it.
And you need to work with it for quite a while longer. Because when you fall back on failed policies from before, coupled with the easy ability to do nothing on anything of importance in the government now, then that's what you have to work with.
You lost power. And you won't get it back.
Ronald Reagan was a senile old fool. In his last
year in office they had to put a yellow line on
the floor so he new which office to go into for
each meeting.
He was in bad shape in his last year in office.
He would also fall asleep in meetings.
No bet, gogowhitesox.
For the simple fact that, if by some weird freak of nature chance, you win, then you would be requiring me to go against principles and utter a lie.
black vote reid hispanic vote reid senior vote reid 14%unemployed vote reid military vets vote reid anti nuke votes reid unions vote reid cheap citizens that don't want to pay their share of taxes vote angle tea party members from anywhere but nevada vote angle republicans that know what is best for nevada vote reid .hey sharrron when nancy reagan said just say no she meant drugs not every vote. just say no to the party of no.
"If the GOP takes over they will gut the middle-class! What is that you say? The GOP already did it!?! Wow thanks for the update."
A conversation heard on Main St in Anytown USA was just just transcribed in my opinion.
The GOP loves the poor, that is why the make many more Americans poor. Now if they can get Sharron Angle elected so we can have a low seniority junior US Senator. NV will have no clout, and when Ensign loses his election to(pick your more liberal than Harry or Rory Democrat) in two years, we will still have no clout.
In this Worst Case Scenario of GOP Dystopic Fantasy, Our Country will be Hi-Balling towards a Fascist State.
But it will be OK, because we will be ruled by Corporations and our GOP Pols will do their bidding. Average Americans will be one step above indentured servants.
Hey at least we will have our I-Pads and I-pods!
Oh the irony of republican's being worried about the debt!!!
Another joke. A convention full of more morons. Sandoval governor of your state? LOL, he would not be in there longer than 2 years and then he will pull a palin. Rory LOL, a daddys boy. What is this with sandoval calling for 3 debates? Are there not more people than daddys boy and I cant keep a job long enough to be governor running for office? Probably because the other candidates have no money and arent constantly in the media because the media only values the ones in power that can bring in revenue. In my day anyone could run regardless of connections.
NEWS FLASH: Sandoval needs to relearn the language. "I ain't no senator's son" is incorrect. And he has an education plan for your state? LOL LOL LOL.
"welfare ghetto"? What kind of racist oversimplified propaganda is that?
THE DANGERS OF ANGLE TAKING THE SENATE SEAT IS JUST MUDSLINGING, HEARSAY AND RUMORS WHILE THE DANGERS OF REID CONTINUING TO BE THE SENATE PRESIDENT ARE REAL. WE KNOW WHAT REID IS CAPABLE OF DOING AS HE HAS PROVEN BY SHOVING THE OBAMACARE AND ECONOMIC POLICIES THAT JUST WASTED TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT ONLY MADE THE ECONOMY WORST. FROM 4.4 % TO 14 % UNEMPLOYMENT WHICH IS HIGHEST IN THE NATION, HIGHEST FORECLOSURE RATE, NEVADA IS NOW THE MOST DEPRESSED STATE IN THE NATION.
MarcVegas:
Your coming to the party a little late with your thoughts. While you are certainly entitled to your view that health care reform which bans lifetime limits, pre-existing condition limitations, limits on dependent coverage, rights to cancel coverage, and reducing drug costs by closing the donut hole is outweighed by requirement of mandatory coverage, no one, not even the far out right thinks "obamacare" has anything to do with our current unemployment issues. Economists even on the right don't think that the one concrete economic legislation Obama/Reid/Pelosi passed this year added to our unemployment, they are merely concerned, possibly very concerned that the impact on the deficit will have some negative impact in the future. Which well it might but their proposed solution of tax breaks has the same potential for impact on the deficit. If you think that the Stimulus Bill didn't reduce unemployment, you might want to ask about the $1.2B subsidy that went to Nevada schools so that thousands of teachers didn't get laid off.
Please feel free to argue that the long term effects might outweigh the short term benefits or that other legislative proposals might have moved unemployment down quicker, but if you want to be considered seriously by anyone with a 3 digit IQ, don't argue that subsidies contribute to unemployment in the short term.
So Sharon quoted Ronald Regan. Wasn't there something in the Sun awhile back that during the Regan administration Sharon was a registered democrat and helped a democrat run for Congress?
Why do people have such short memories about policy and positions. I don't know if Angle was a democrat or not, and if she was, when was she, or why. What I do know is that Bush 41 called trickle down, Laffer curve theories, "voodoo economics" and he was right. Hell even Arthur Laffer disclaims most of the mythological theories promulgated by the right in his name. Trickle down does not and has not ever worked or been validated by any serious economist. The only people who push trickle down are the hired guns of the corporate elite and those that are duped by them.
If you think tax breaks result in job creating investment, tell me why Big Oil got $70B in tax breaks in the Bush 43 era and accumulated cash reserves of $120B in the same time frame? And that is net of dividends, stock options and unbelievable executive bonuses. If the reason for tax breaks is to encourage investment, why has the right not pushed for investment tax credits instead of tax bracket reduction? The answer is easy, you can't pay a dividend with dollars you invest and you can't pay bonuses either with monies put into R&D. Executives make decisions based on next quarters profits and the resulting impact on their stock options, with little emphasis on potential for long term profits that will only benefit the value of stock options held by next guy in their job.
nitro:
I"m sorry, you'll have to give a little bit more in the way of facts for anyone to understand how affirmative action impacts on Illinois. Are you saying that government contracts to minority investors somehow is responsible for the decrease in the tax base, or the increase in unemployment/medicaid and other entitlement costs that are causing a whipsaw on the budget of illinois? Or are saying that minority contracts are sooooo expensive, that even with no change in the tax base or entitlement obligations, illinois would have a huge deficit?
As to the "enormous apparatus as us military", what does that have to do with Big Oil getting tax breaks and hording the cash rather than investing to create jobs?
Harry Reid is forcing Obama's agenda in the senate. Harry Reid is NOT representing us. Harry Reid is using his clout against us.
Obama is just trying to buy votes for Harry Reid!
It's time for Reid to retire!
"Because of affirmative action freaks like you, Illinois cannot pay for basic services right now."
Neither can Nevada, which has been run by a dumbass honkie conservative crackhead like you for the past 4 years.
Why is harry reid running ads saying that ending social security is a bad thing? I would opt out of this bankrupt ponzi scheme in a heartbeat (it goes without saying that current promises to seniors would be kept).
"it goes without saying that current promises to seniors would be kept)."
Right. Now how in the hell is a bankrupt government going to pay the retirements for millions of us who will likely live til we're 99? on the 'good wishes' of politicians? respect of the younger workers?
How in the hell can anyone BEGIN to trust a mouth that would 'remedy Reid? shoot her way into office? cut Medicare, SS, UE and then eliminate (in a time of oil spills, shortages and international pressure to be other than stupid) the Departments of Energy and Education?
What kind of stuff is she smoking in her 3 bedroom house in the suburbs?
SS ain't ponzi.
It's a tax-based retirement system. I paid into it. It's mine. What's ponzi about that?
SS is the largest expense in our budget. Is that why Angle wants to cut us off, because we built this country, picking up the pieces of a war-economy and banging out plowshares, homes and schools?
Go ahead on with your treacherous offensive against the heart of this little country, Sharron.
Take your contributions from international corporations and go on and TRY to wipe out respect for individuality.
Might have been the right time, just the wrong place.
Angle also said that if women are raped "they should make lemons out of lemonade" She is a cold-hearted ignorant spoiled brat who needs to go home. For her, rape is the woman's fault. Men can't & don't have to control themselves. There is no way to sugar-coat this statement like she tried to with using her father's decision on social security. Also, with Senator Reid Reshowing her old website, she cries unfair & "hit a girl" using her womanhood to hide when things get tuff. No wonder women have a hard time in business & getting promoted. Senator Reid is a pro. If Angle can't stand the heat, then she should go hide in her kitchen and quit. She states to be a US senator is not to earn jobs for Nevada; yet, she blames Senator Reid for 14% unemployment, when it was the banks greed that did this. She is not smart enough to do anything on her own properly. Now, she has the "big boys" come in to tell her what to do. If she wins, Mitch McConnell can tell her what to do like he does to Ensign. Nevada will have no power at all because Nevada is a small electoral state with 3 maybe 4 votes. At least, Senator Reid being #2(VP Biden is #1)has some power. DC is different thought then NV. We will have nothing without him. Whether you like Senator Reid or not, he is our best hope. If he looses, 14% unemployment will be small compared to the future. Dear God help us. No one in the US Senete will care about Nevada except Senator Harry Reid. Please wake up and look beyond your noses, before it's too late.
Reid has put $1 million behind a lying negative ad which uses a highly edited tape of Angle saying she wants to "phase out Social Security and Medicare." What Sharron really said was that she wanted to phase out the method of funding which permits Harry Reid and co. to raid the fund to pay for their deficit. But, as Churchill said, a lie makes it halfway around the world before the truth gets its shoes on in the morning.
Will the 'REAL'Sharon Angle or Harry Reid please stand up and state for all of us to hear: "I will not take the Congressional Health Care Insurance and will sign up for a private insurance plan. I will sign and support a new law that requires all congress and government workers to have no exceptions to any federal legislation; we will follow the national laws. I pledge to not take a congressional life time salary for retirement." Common Sharon and Harry let us hear you say these things in public, or sit down and shut the Hell up."