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Published Thursday, Jan. 14, 2010 | 5:02 p.m.
Updated Thursday, Jan. 14, 2010 | 5:02 p.m.
WASHINGTON – Three of the Republicans vying for the chance to run against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid this year signed a pledge today – vowing to vote to repeal health care legislation if elected in November.
Candidates Sharron Angle, Sue Lowden and Danny Tarkanian all signed the pledge unveiled today by the conservative group Club for Growth.
“The Repeal It! pledge sends the message that even if ObamaCare does pass, this fight won’t be over,” said Club for Growth President Chris Chocola. “Pro-growth conservatives’ best strategy now is to pledge to undo this monstrosity if it ever becomes law, and only to support candidates who take that pledge.”
Together, the three Nevadans make up 10 percent of the 31 candidates for federal office who made the pledge on Day One.
“As Nevada's next senator, I will sponsor any legislation to repeal the government takeover of health care and work to bring this nation back on the road to fiscal sanity," Tarkanian said.
The pledge may be popular now in rallying the Republican base but prove difficult in 2011.
However, the health care legislation contains popular provisions – for example, the part about insurance companies no longer being allowed to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.
Will this be a pledge that is easy to keep?
For those of you who want the small print, here’s the pledge they signed:
“I hereby pledge to the people of my state/district, upon my election to the House/Senate, to sponsor and support legislation to repeal any federal health care takeover passed in 2010, and replace it with real reforms that lower health care costs without growing government.”
Good luck with that. The bill supposedly contains language that makes it all but impossible for future legislators to repeal or change it in any substantial way.
Good... Change that we can believe in...
these clowns r racist their agenda has nothing to do with health care these same clowns followed bush junior into a country that had nothing to do with bin laden or 9/11 yet they have been going against their president,yes folks like it or not he is your president and unlike bush junior he was not put there by trhe supreme court but by a majority of americans,since he took the oath of office.just ask each of them which of their presidents ideas or agendas they have supported since he took office.i'll answer the question since they won't even bother the answer is none.they hate him so much like lkimbaugh that they hope the country fails because they are not fit to represent any community based on their biased beliefs.the clowns need to realize 1 thing and that is 3+4= 7 more years of president barack obama,deal with it.
billm: I have two words for you: One Term!
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.
Last time I checked the pledge was open to democrats too. Obama care is about government being your father and taking care of you because you cannot, not a Democrat or Republican ideal per se. Just because more democrats are liberal and want to be your father doesn't mean the whole party is bad.
This is about Obama and the rest of the liberals, and I hope they all get booted out.
On a side note, we need balanced Republicans and Democrats, let's just hope we get more moderates who can actually discuss and HAVE to come to a concensus.
Nevada needs this bill, Republicans don't care about Nevadans getting affordable healthcare, they just want to win a political battle, and that's disgusting.
Mr> Tarkanian:
The government is NOT going to take over healthcare, thank you for invoking a Frank Luntz talking point.
But, you are correct that "reverse" is not only a noun, it can be a verb, and Republicans currently in Congress are committed to blocking, stalling and "hopefully" with 2012 results can begin the process of reversing needed changes.
The current bill is not perfect, but who's fault is that, in the interest of "compromise" and Joe Lieberman?
I have more respect for Senator Reid in seeing the need for healthcare reform to support AMERICAN small business, AMERICAN big business and the AMERICAN country, no matter any problems it can create back with voting constituency and job security. There are some other Senators in BOTH parties that should have such nobility, and God knows what is in Senator Leiberman's mind.
I personally don't care if healthcare insurance is administered in this country by a heavily regulated, ocmpetitive private insurance structure, or a public plan structure, or the country decides to contract out the whole mess to some other country already doing it much better than we are.
What I want to see is employers out of the healthcare business, period. Because when people need healthcare most, they lose it. Whereas the employee was helping their company make money, once ill and running up costs, the employer-employee relationship and cost-profit relationship which form the basis of the relationship, falls apart, the detriment of the employee.
This is especially a BIG problem in Nevada, which is severely DEFICIENT in safety nets, including Medicaid, though a large percentage of Nevadans get help from Medicaid, and is merely a case of regressive and libertarian Nevada pushing costs onto other states. In Nevada, which is a transient-residence state, if you get sick, you GO HOME, which is someplace else. Well, it can't be that way everywhere, and it WILL change in Nevada, something you can bet your boots and stock shares on, otherwise, because the current is not sustainable, no matter gaming stock values.
Wake up, get busy.
billm: I wasn't a racist when I voted for Obama but you now call me a racist because I don't agree with his handling of health care which HAS NOT been transparent as he promised. Bush had his problems, no doubt about it but at least I felt safer from terrorists. Obama got in power and did the same thing every white man has done. You are blind by his color and unable to be objective, this sir, respectfully, makes you the racist!
Never underestimate the influence political leaders. U.S. schoolteachers now instruct their youngest pupils to sing songs about him. Robin Hood he is not, but he does take money from Citizens to give it to others. His name is Obama, Harry Reid's boss.
Congressional Democrats in some respects resemble the Mafia in methods used to force their health care bill down the throats of Americans. Like the mob the Democrat health bill incorporates threats and penalties to force Americans to buy health insurance from certain companies; holds hostage Citizens to higher and higher health insurance premiums and medical costs. Democrat Strong-arming include "Forever" prohibiting Americans exercising their Constitutional Right to change certain provisions in their bill. Democrats have been alleged to have bribed Members of Congress with taxpayer money, to get their votes to pass their health bill: an independent prosecutor needs be appointed to investigate allegations of fraud and bribery; determine if laws were broken by Special Interests that supported the Democrat health bill; a federal investigation might possibly include among others labor unions and insurance companies.
So Greg you're ok with paying for Nebraska and Louisiana's Mecicaid costs? You're ok with the fact that pacemakers for veterans who've spilled blood to protect the values we hold dear will be taxed to pay for abortions? You're ok with the concept that if you don't pay the sheckles that the government says you have to pay you'll eventually be fined and go to jail?
We have a safety net. Harry Reid and company want to turn it into a hammock.
The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. (Benjamin Franklin)
Larry, Moe and Curly did "What?" How ingeniuos of this group of Republicans to agree to decided to all run on a platform that's against a bill over 80% of populist America wants--Brilliant!! Maybe they'll make it a point to have George W. come to NV and stump for'em!! Sorry folks, but the right wing's control of Media negativity projected toward's Harry Reid isn't enough to stop him from being re-elected. There's no Democrat that will beat him in the primary and the Republican Party of "NO" will not regain power in any branch of Gov't for generations to come based on their inability to realize that their platform does not serve any constituency that other than Corporate hierarchy..
I do remember when then President Bush trying to privatize social security. Only 35% of the American people were in favor of it. I remember Obama saying at that time, Mr President, the American people have voted for and turned down your proposal. Will he listen to his own advice?
Dear BillM, I think I see your problem, your ingnorant! 4-1=3. Its typicall of liberals fuzzy math to come up with your answer. Oh thier is a little thing like a election every four years that may put the brakes to the Barrrrrackus Obamarama agenda and it looks like Four and no more for the Nigerian Kid. The health care shakedown or the Big Sting as many are calling it may just be the prescription to finally put the put extreme liberal wing to rest.
The three little pigs know nothing about government, where are they going to get 60+ votes to repeal.
The Beckbrainds and Sean Inssanitized dittoheads will be the first to sign up for Obamacare as they are all on unemployment, medicare, social security, VA, or disability.
The three stooges before the Club for Grief, They will never repeal the gutted health care bill that passes. They won't have the votes, and people who get something will not give it up,,,like SS and medicare.
Do they want to tear down the VA hospital that is being built in NLV.
Hey, billm:
Are you really as stupid as you sound in your post? Someone disagrees with Obama or Reed and they're a racist? Keep it up though, its fools like you that expose progressives for what they really are; ignorant and intolerant of any views but their own.
Learn to think, learn to listen to other points of view and for goodness sake, learn how to spell and type.
Lets plan a nice retirement party for Harry! A 60/40 whuppin would get the party off the ground in fine style. Repudiation of his big government policies and strong-arm approach to legislation should be his legacy.
It shows how stupid some people (Tark, Lowden, Angle) are about the Senate proceedures and how a bill is crafted. A "middle majority" might pass healthcare. No right Republicans and no left Democrats. People like Scott Brown may be the teabag downfall.
NEVADA: Harry Reid's Disney World. OMG r-u folks going to re-elect this buffoon? Do you folks want him and Pelosi to fudge-up the rest of the U.S. the way they have done your states? Just in case you missed it, which I am sure the gullible Nevada public has, the "Canadian Premier Flys to U.S. for Heart Surgery, see http://www.healthreformscam.com/category......
The 59-year-old Conservative needed health care which was not timely available in Canada.
WAKE UP FOOLS
Without a public option, health care reform isn't really reform. The whole debate is ridiculous. Americans remind me of the people who wanted to burn Copernicus for saying the sun doesn't revolve around the world. Americans are desperately clinging to a system that's a dinosaur. Its about time we joined the rest of the developed world and had a public health care system. I mean, what kind of idiot says "please no no I don't want affordable health care, you can't force me to have it! Stop stop the dr is going to kill me! Please I want private HMOs and insurance companies to decide what treatment I get, I don't want the evil government to say its between me and my dr!" I hope the people who oppose public health care get cancer, can't afford to pay for treatment(and they better refuse that evil medicaid or medicare), and go to hell!
I don't think pledges are particularly useful in running a country -- but since the Club for Growth felt compelled to ask the opinion of candidates I figured I would offer mine. I put out a press release on the matter yesterday.
ObamaCare II is far worse than ObamaCare I. This time around the special exemptions and deals are now applicable across the board through 2018 as the spending and government intrusion ramps up. It is the most cynical of legislation bestowing government largesse in vast amounts without any notion of how to pay for it, other than through taxes which are cleverly couched, shrouded and in many cases deferred well into the future. It's an economic disaster in every regard.
Republicans should disavow any willingness to be co-opted into the President's and Senator Reid's photo-op approach to lying to the American people.
Modifications to tax policy to grant deductions to individuals, tort reform, portability across state lines of health plans are just three of the key components of enhancing market mechanisms so the consumer can become engaged in realizing what, exactly, they are paying each year (fully loaded -- directly and indirectly) for their family's healthcare. And once the consumer is empowered, there is a chance that market forces will start to squeeze excess costs out of the American health care system.
Simply signing a pledge that says you would vote to repeal is an empty statement. Once this horrible legislation has been passed, it will be a very long time in coming to undo it. Consequently, the commitment Republicans should be making (those in power today) is to stand in the well of the senate offering amendment upon amendment as long as the lights are on until the lunacy of Mr. Reid's legislative shinanigans are put under the bright spot light they deserve.
I am the only candidate for this office who publcly called for Senator Reid to either be Nevada's Senator or stand down as the Majority Leader unable to say "no" to the President. He can't be both and reconcile the two positions. And last I looked, it is to Nevadans not Mr. Obama to whom Mr. Reid owes his primary loyalty and service.
The data in Nevada is irrefutable: the Silver State opposes ObamaCare so the two positions are irreconcilable. Mr. Reid has been sent to Washington by Nevadans not by the Democratic caucus.
A more powerful pledge I would support would be for candidates to initiate a "recall" vote of Mr. Reid immediately. Under various Federal and State statutes, there are provisions to invoke a voter referendum to recall a public official. We can't wait until November in the case of Mr. Reid. It's time to act now.
Its just Good old Harry playing with our Lives. The no Repeal clause that Harry added to the bill was added just before the last vote. This is why the Almighty BO and Comedy show and Democratic Circus want this version of the bill passed. Everyone needs to start sending a message to all Of the Congress and Senate that they all can be removed at the will and wish of the people for not doing the work of the People.
In a response to reports that opposition groups are targeting Dina with ridiculous messages that her constituents don't want her to support the president's health care bill, I am writing to urge her to stand up to the lies and manipulation that are driving people to oppose the effort for reform.
These industry driven negative forces have twisted the truth, using deplorable fear tactics to trick constituents into thinking the bill is horrible. Their largely successful efforts have already negatively influenced the reform effort to the point where the current legislation is significantly less effective than it should be. We are at a point though, where pragmatism dictates that this flawed bill is better than nothing.
IT IS IMPERATIVE TO PASS THIS BILL NOW! Like Medicare, once we get it up and running, people will see the potential and much like the "death panel" stories, the truth will drive a more positive perception. Then we can pass improvements and move it closer to where it should be, but if we overreach and say 'no' to what we are being offered now with the hopes of something better in the future, I am convinced we will will suffer a great deal more than if we pass this imperfect bill today.
I urge everyone who reads this letter to contact Representative Titus with the message to grab the "1/2 apple" we've been offered and support the president's program. In return for her faith in this process and the benefits of it, I pledge my efforts and access to my community on her behalf when she needs it this fall.
It is time for strength of conviction, pragmatism and hope for the future. Please support the president's plan for health care reform!
The question is not if or when we are going to Hell, because I bought and paid for the tickets already, the real question is, what the temperature is going to be and will I need my Sunglasses.
Danny Tarkanian to clean up health care? why doesnt he go back to Fresno state and clean that up? He is a walking disaster and a poor excuse for someone calling himself an Armenian! I know alot of Armenians and they do not operate like this Joker!
I am not a supporter of Harry Reid or his kid and I am a Democrat. There are other choices you know.
But the Republican opposiition is even more braindead. In fact the Republican position on healthcare is not even smart enough to be called retarded.
However, I have a proposition for ALL Republicans.
You get to opt out for all Obama based care. If you get sick or hurt, you have to pay up front in cash before you receive any medical care or emergency treatment.
You renounce all claims to any medical or emergency treatment unless you can PAY for all of it upfront whethr it is out of your pocket or thru insurance.
Surely, if you REALLY believe in your side of the argument, you will take this offer. If not, I think we can rightly say you are all a bunch of hypocrites. So which is it?
Fred Conquest
Democratic Candidate for Governor
www.fredconquest.com
There is nothing in this bill for us, people. It is insurance reform, not health care reform.
Mr. President, I want to admire you. I want to trust you. I want to believe that you have every American's best interest close to your heart.
But Mr. President, I don't believe these things. And I have always loved my presidents. You have shown Americans that we are pawns in a game that you are playing and in which we are the losers. As I am writing this, the biggest fraud that has ever been perpetrated against our country is happening in OUR White House. You are packing your clothes to make a quick exit to Indonesia - your childhood home. No doubt you will be welcomed, cheered, and people will love you in hopes that you can improve their lives.
But, Mr. President, WE are your citizens, your neighbors, your family. WE are those who deserve your respect and your guardianship. We have to be able to trust our president, because without this trust, we are in grave danger.
So I ask you, Mr. President, to reconsider your course of action. You are pressing our officials to make a historic decision - but you have silenced our voices, withheld information, hidden what is ours by right, and lied to us about that which is most precious. The most grievous offense; however, is that you have taken away our ability to provide the best lives that we can for our children. And this is - unforgivable.
AMERICANS:
CALL THESE DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVES AND TELL THEM THAT YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING EXCEPT "NO" ON THE HEALTHCARE BILL.
17 potential Democratic No-Yes flip votes:
6 lean yes:
Jason Altmire
202-225- 2565
EMAIL
Bart Gordon
202-225-4231
EMAIL
Brian Baird
202-225-3536
EMAIL
John Boccieri
202-225-3876
EMAIL
Scott Murphy
202-225-5614
EMAIL
Betsy Markey
202-225-4676
EMAIL
7 possible:
Glenn Nye
202-225-4215
EMAIL
John Tanner
202-225-4714
EMAIL
Suzanne Kosmas
202-225-2706.
EMAIL
John Adler
202-225- 4765
EMAIL
Lincoln Davis
202-225- 6831
EMAIL
Jim Matheson
202-225-3011
EMAIL
Harry Teague
202-225-2365
EMAIL
4 less possible:
Travis Childers
202-225-4306
John Barrow
202-225-2823
EMAIL
Allen Boyd
202-225-5235
Rick Boucher
202-225-3861
Thank you represetatives Angle, Lowden, and Tarkanian for promising to repeal the healthcare
bill. Be aware that on page 1,000 there is language that prevents its repeal, maybe you have to use procedures to block this before it's
voted on!!!
Nevada must stand tough on healthcare. We must say no to Reid's special deals and send a clear message that we will not accept socialized medicine. This is only a first step for the progressives and they are bound and determined to ram this through to gain their foot in the door for more drastic legislation.This could be the death of our country as we know it.We should stand with the other 38 states who against this bill.
Cowgrl... we already have socialized medicine in this country. Medicare and Trifunds (military retirement healthcare) are just two examples. And they seem to be working for seniors and for retired military members.
This healthcare reform does NOT create "socialized medicine". Please read the details before you make such a statement.
Never before in the history of this country, has so many minds gathered to form an opinion of stupidity.This is the case of the OBAMA election.So... and I left Vegas 8 yrs. ago and moved back to Chicago.With that said and the fact that nobody ever even heard of Obama here before the election as the guy just dropped out of the sky.Yes he got the vote only because of minorities and the dumb white liberals who know nothing about politics.Free loaders USA!
Well Harry. Sharron Angle, Sue Lowden and Danny Tarkanian all want to repeal Universal health care. I wonder if they realise how many people in Nevada have died from having no or not enought insurance over the years. It would definitly run into the tens of thousands (maybe more). I bet these candidates are getting a lot of money from big medical insurance conglomerates for their election campaigns - its amazing what some people will do for money.
DefendUrRights: thanks for letting me know who to call to tell them I support the health care bill as well as ethics and morals.
I would like to hear excitably what part of the healthcare bill they plan to repeal. They do so at their peril.
The are Republican not getting their way. It was all right when G.W. Bush borrowed 500 BILLION from Communist China, the Republicans think that the Health reform bill is horrible but condone paying billions of dollars to Communist China in interest. So it is socialist or communist only when a Republican think so. Anything that works out in favor of the taxpayers is not right according to the GOP. The cost will be too much. I guess that is true when you consider how many billions in interest we have to pay to Communist China which the Republicans think this is O.K. Republicans are endorsing Communism with taxpayer dollars and denying the U.S. taxpayer any help they might receive.
Oh yes!! Change that we can believe in is correct. Reid is definitely out & will now join the unemployment line like so many others unless he goes to work for Goldman on WallStreet as most of the ex-politicians do.
Hope we put up a better candidate against Reid than Sharron Angle. She organized a tax-payer funded trip to Mexico for legislators to study a crazy, scientology-based prison program. The RJ even reported on it!
Watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nFp1O9Xv...
Sharron is not the kind of "conservative" we need.