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Published Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008 | 9 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, June 2, 2009 | 4:41 p.m.
Following an intense campaign that included contested polling sites, negative ads and opposition from the Culinary Union, Hillary Clinton emerged victorious today in what proved to be a raucous — and in some cases
confusing — Nevada Democratic caucus.
"I guess this is how the West was won," the New York senator told hundreds of cheering supporters who gathered at Planet Hollywood to celebrate her win.
Noting some of the divisions in the party during the campaign, Clinton said, "we will all be united in November."
Clinton’s win over Barack Obama in Nevada gives her much-needed momentum going into next Saturday's South Carolina Democratic primary, where Obama was seen as having an advantage because of that state’s large African-American population.
Her victory today included a stunning showing at the nine controversial at-large sites on the Las Vegas Strip — where she won seven of those precincts.
However, during the late afternoon, the Culinary-backed Obama campaign tried to throw some cold water on Clinton's victory.
Using arcane caucus math and a formula that figured in Obama's results in rural Nevada, his camp insisted that Obama actually won Nevada by taking 13 of the Silver State's 25 national delegates. However, party leaders put out a statement saying Obama's camp was flat wrong.
"The calculations of national convention delegates being circulated are based upon an assumption that delegate preferences will remain the same between now and April 2008," said Jill Derby, state party chairwoman. "We look forward to our county and state conventions (April 19) where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."
The Culinary Union had painted itself as the state’s presidential kingmaker all year. It ran an aggressive field program but did not endorse Obama until last week, just 10 days before the caucus. The outcome demonstrates that the endorsement itself was counter to the wishes of the union’s rank and file.
The intensity between the Clinton and Obama camps obviously got the political juices stirring in Nevada, where voters are known for their apathy.
Party officials announced that more than 115,000 Democrats came out and participated. That compares with the 2004 caucuses, when about 9,000 voters joined in for the party's caucuses.
THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...
THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...
THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...
THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...
THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!
HILLARY SUPPORTED GOLDWATER WHO VOTED NO TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.
CIVIL RIGHTS ARE AS IMPORTANT FOR BLACKS AS THEY ARE FOR HISPANICS AND ANY OTHER MINORITY.
What a tragedy for Democrats and Americans. Will the Bush-Clinton nightmare never end?
HILLARY WINS! HILLARY WINS!
NOW THE OBAMA PEOPLE WILL HELP HER IN THE GE, RIGHT.
THANK YOU NEVADA!!!!!!!!!
BARACKS RACE BAITING AND SMEAR TACTICS DIDN'T WORK! NICE TRY JERK!
SEE YA CULINARY UNNNIOOOOOOOOON
ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!
I realize that the State of Nevada switched from primaries to caucuses to save money. However, Harry Reid & Co. listen to me. The caucuses are a really bad idea, because they cause individual groups of Democrats to be hostile to each other live and in person. It's going to be hard for the losing group of Democrats to stomach voting for the other candidate in November...given the real emotion I saw today. Next time, PLEASE have a primary!
Wow! looks like someone found the Caps Lock Button. Good for you, maybe next time you could add a little background info. to some of these statements you have made. This just looks and reads like another Hillary Hater. God Bless you and hope you find some peace dude, before you blow a gasket.
Culinary Union Leaders = loosers!
Bravo to Union workers for your courage to say no to obamanization and oprahization.
Congrat, Hillary!
The Obama-lites on the blogs seem very hostile and behave like cult followers.
Despite the attempts to intimidate workers by their union, the people have spoken.
On to South Carolina!!
60,000 members of the Culinary Union. Would someone please take a rough guess at how many union members voted today. Sounds like a few thousand at most.
Looks like Kihunen knew what he was doing, walking precincts despite the Culinary's endorsement.
I am an independent, Democrats nominating Hillary makes it an easy choice for me to vote Republican in November. I am tired of the Clintons and the Bushes, and their stranglehold on our Politics. We have over 300 million people in this country, and there is no reason why we should continue to be ruled by 2 families. So who next after Hillary, Jeb Bush? America is not a monarchy system, and I and other independents will work very hard to drive our point home. We do not want a monarchy system in the United States of America.
Percentages don't matter. County delegates don't matter. The only race that matters is the race for national delegates.
Examine Iowa: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229206 -- Clinton came in 3rd in percentages but 2nd in delegates.
Examine New Hampshire: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229220 -- Clinton's "win" was actually a "tie".
What will we see when we examine Nevada's results: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229219 -- once the Clinton fanatics turn off their caps lock keys and wake up with their "win" hangover tomorrow?
What happens in Vegas did not necessarily happen at all.
Peace.
ezboy03
ONE NATION, ONE TRUTH, ONE CANDIDATE > HILLARY '08, HILLARY FOR 8
Sorry, my post should have read, "once the Clinton/Obama fanatics turn off their caps lock keys".
Nationally 65% of the Hispanic electorate favors Clinton as compared to 15% for Obama. Because they did not consult their membership, the Culinary Union leaders could not deliver the votes to Obama. His candidacy is doomed because Obama’s strength is regional, and not national. He could win in neighboring Iowa, and in certain Southern primaries where African-American voters are in the majority, but he will lose in Texas, California, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania etc., all the big states.
Hillary will not win the general election without large African American support. Independents can always swing to the left and right. A lot of independents will be turned off by Hillary's tactics, and African Americans will not vote in the general election, because of all the racist undertones from Hillary supporters.
She may get the nomination, but she and her racist supporters are destroying her general election.
Just wait and see.
All of the nasty comments, all of the flaming from Obama supporters on this site...you huffed and you puffed but you cannot knock Hillary down. You can HAVE South Carolina next week. We're going all the way and Hillary will take the whole enchilada on Feb. 5. HILLARY 08
Also, are Hispanics crazy. Was it not Obama who co-sponsoired John Mccaines Bill for immigration reform? Oh, how short the attention span of a country during an election cycle.
Darryl,
Hillary only appeals to some core Democrats and you will find out that you need more than core Democrats to win the General election. Tune in. Some of us were around in the 90s and remember the Clinton White House. If you were too young then to know what happened in the White House, ask around. The Clintons will do anything to be in power, but I believe the majority of Americans have had enough of the Clintons and their scandals. I am not undecided at this point, but I know the people I would not vote for in November - Anyone with these last names - Bush, Clinton - if they happen to be on the ballot.
The Clintons won't win more than 10 states in November. Will be a wipeout just like the Mondale campaign. (He only won 1 state after he split the party with Gary Hart in the Democratic primary.)
Congratulations Clintons, you've turned brown against black, union against union. You've killed the Democratic party.
Only way now to avoid a Republican landslide is to pray for Bloomberg to get in.
I don't know how they are with normal union matters but as for politics and judgement the union leaders need to be replaced.
I don't doubt for a minute that intimidation in one form or another was used against the members but it didn't work
The people above talking about Clinton using dirty tricks are either sore losers or Republicans or maybe both. Some are probably union organizers. TOUGH!
the bush-clinton nightmare will never end ...time for a draft ...we will be invading Iran either way ...them maybe these women who supported Hillary can think about their decision. She voted to invade Iran.
Clinton is fundamentally dishonest. At her core, she is a power-obsessed sociopath. Nevada Dems, you're idiots
OldTimeDemocrat hit the nail on the head. By waiting so long to endorse, Culinary failed to mobilize both precinct canvassers and educational information to help smooth the process. Add to that, their inflamatory spanish language radio spot was diametrically opposed to Obama's message of change. His mistake was not repudiating that ad immediately. But in not repudiating it, Obama demonstrated more loyalty to the Culinary Union's leadership than they may have deserved under the circumstances. Culinary needs political leadership that relies more upon their brains than their bile ducts. The overly aggressive style used by the Culinary, caused in large part in this particular race by the limited time they gave themselves to give meaning to their endorsement, only works in getting rid of crooked county commissioners, not electing candidates in real contests. Unfortunately, their track record is pretty bad: Titus, Heffert, and now Obama. They've created a new verb: Culinized-to receive an endorsement that ultimately leads to losing the election. They need to quickly learn how to put foot soldiers on the street who pleasantly and politely raise both awareness of their candidates and the overall positive reaction to that candidate, or simply step back from the process of endorsement for a while and refocus their energy on winning some local races, or any races, for that matter.
Congrats Clintons you've turned Brown against Black, union against union, and absolutely killed the Democratic party. Obama supporters will never vote for the Clintons now. I voted for the Clintons twice but Obama was the new intelligent face this year. The Clintons have sunk to being such slime. I'd vote for a dead dog before I'd vote for the Clintons a 3rd time.
Democratic party is dead, dead, dead for 08.
The next president will be McCain or (hopefully) Bloomberg.
Bloomberg/Obama 08 would be a landslide!
I was of age and I do remember there was ONE scandal with President Clinton. He had sex with an intern and he lied about it. Were there any other scandals?
I think we all need be respectful of the candidates who are running. They are the loved ones, parents, sons and daughters of good good people. Offering to be the President of this country should not make them targets of anyone's insults.
Also, I am not in favor of dynasties or a monarchy system but every adult of sound mind can run.
I am a Libertarian voter who changed registration to the Democratic party, to enable me to caucus for a Democratic candidate.
I attended the local precinct (1300) caucus at Durango High School and can report that not even the 'appearance of democracy' was in effect. It was virtually chaos from beginning to end.
As a 'democrat for the day,' I have an unbiased view of the party, and can tell you that they should be collectively embarrassed. Disorganization was the word for the day. Personally, I lay that at the feet of the Nevada State Democratic Party. Let me summarize.
* About a half dozen precincts were assembled at various locations within the school complex. There was no map or signage to indicate where each precinct was to gather.
* No neutral party representatives were present to facilitate the proceedings, including checking of voter registration cards or new voter registration forms.
* Many people showed up, not knowing their precincts. There was no mechanism or procedure to help people figure out where to go. A number of people surely wound up leaving or not casting their preference, as a result.
* They ran out of ballots, rendering the use of ballots, impossible. So the precincts were reduced to counting heads. No valid paper trail exists, as a result.
Regardless of candidate vs. candidate sniping (I'm sure there will be plenty of that), the bottom line is that the process was strictly amateur hour. With my eyes, there appears to be no validity to the process that I witnessed today.
Nevada needs a primary. Period.
There were many other scandals - There is the Marc Rich Scandal? Marc Rich was a felon wanted by the US Government on tax evasion charges, Marc Rich donated a huge amount to the Clinton Library Fund, President Clinton on his way out of office pardoned Marc Rich. Former President Carter called Clinton's action questionable, bothering on fraudulent.
There is Hillary's brother, Hugh Rodham who took money from a convict, and that convict was mysteriously pardoned by the Clinton Administration. I could go on, and on. The Clintons would do anything to return to the White House. The Clintons represent everything we need to change about our politics. It will be a big shame, if after all the scandals of the 90s, we can't do better than another Clinton in the White House. Bill Clinton debased the Presidency, I was ashamed to see him on TV arguing over the definition of "IS". That's my President, our President. I have enormous respect for that office, and I do not think Clintons deserve another night in the White House. Americans will decide in November.
Wow look at chicago politics Obama and his supporters are the race baiters
It is strange to listen to the media and the Obama campaign speak about how the Nevada election was always Clinton's to loose. They site Clinton's lead from poll taken last fall when everyone assumed that her nomination was inevitable. However, after Clinton's loss to Obama in Iowa and the Culinary Union endorsement of Obama, the media, the Obama campaign, and the Clinton believed the Obama had the advantage in Nevada. This change was evident in the Nevada polls that came out after New Hampshire where Obama held a small lead.
This is a loss for Obama in a state were he thought he could win and campaigned vigorously for the victory. And a win for Clinton in a state where no one (Obama, Clinton, Edwards, the media) was sure who would win.
I am not for Obama or Edwards. I am a proud Independent. I vote for both Republicans and Democrats. I vote for the person NOT the PARTY! I am just sick and tired of Clinton/Bush era. It is time to move this country forward. Bloomberg, Obama, Edwards or anyone else, in my opinion is better than any Bush or Clinton.
Here are the real results; the delegate count: from CNN @ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229219
Hillary Clinton ... 51% ... 13 delegates
Barack Obama ... 45% ... 12 delegates
John Edwards ... 4% ... 0 delegates
A win for Clinton by 1 delegate. Now she and Obama are tied in total delegate count, not counting the uncommitted superdelegates who will just vote for the eventual nominee.
See you in South Carolina with 45 delegates at stake.
Ciao
HILLARY is a GO for SUPER TUESDAY; the Democratic Party presidential nomination; and, the General Election. Thank you Nevada!
Now on to South Carolina and Florida as each part of the nation gets a chance to get on-board the HILLARY EXPRESS!
obama actually got more delegates in nevada because he did better overall in the state of nevada than in highly concentrated areas around las vegas.
remember the gap is less than 5-percent after substancial distortion of obama's record, and subliminal negative ads.
yet, the party recognizes that doing good overall is better than doing great in a few places and very bad in a lot of other places.
that is the case of hillary, she only has pocketed support built over her husband's popularity; her narrow win is not reflective of cross-over support; that is the reason that with her narrow win, she still gets less delegates than obama in nevada.
the smart people that designed this caucus arithmetic recognized that pocketed supports do not win national elections, but cross-over appeal does.
so, it makes sense to consider overall performance within a particular state. the logic here is similar to college graduation standards: one does not get to graduate because one gets a few A's in a few courses while flunking everyrhing else.
all the statistics suggest big trouble for hillary in any national race because she has no cross-over appeal.
now imagine hillary with the same level of experience without a popular former president as a husband. where would she stand in the polls?
In fact, Obama won the Nevada caucuses. As the Clinton campaign pointed out two weeks ago; this is about winning delegates to the Democratic Covention. Obama won 13 delegates and Clinton won 12.
After three states (Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada) Obama leads with 38 delegates and Clinton has 36.
Here is my letter I sent to the Nevada Democratic Party today:
I have spent a year of my life and oodles of my time trying to get people to get involved and pay attention to us.
You guys screwed up.
My Caucus was the worst organized debacle I have ever been involved in.
I first have to give up my candidate, John Edwards, because he did not stay viable. OK. My guy lost. My party rules said if you do not get enough votes you move to another candidate or you choose uncommited or you leave.
I joined Hillary Clinton's caucus.
Then I come home and see that Barack Obama, despite getting a substantially fewer amount of votes, has more delegates than my new choice, Hillary Clinton.
I lost three times today, and you wasted my time.
You guys have now joined the US Supreme Court in the annals of US Political History in stealing the election from the person who won it. Hillary Clinton won, but Barack Obama becomes our Presidential nominee if we are the last criteria used to choose the Democratic nominee.
Shame, shame, shame on all of you.
God Bless all of you.
Hey Jeffko, don't believe what you hear. Jill Derby, the Chairman of the Nevada Democratic Party says that people who say the Convention delegates were awarded today is incorrect.
The only delegates awarded were to the State convention. At the State convention there are additional voters.
Stay tuned. I doubt the Nevada delegates plane to the convention will have an Obama banner on it.
Here's an exert form a Washington Post article bu Paul Kane just before the caucuses: "The [Clinton] suit was widely expected by state party officials as well as Obama's campaign and the powerful Culinary Workers Union 226, which earlier this week endorsed the Illinois senator in advance of the Jan. 19 Nevada caucus. That endorsement had been eagerly sought by Obama as well as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and former senator John Edwards (D-N.C.), and by yesterday afternoon (Jan. 14th) culinary union leaders told the Washington Post they expected an outside group with ties to Clinton to file a motion seeking to quash the casino caucuses.
The Nevada State Education Association, some of whose top leaders have individually endorsed Clinton, filed the suit and is using a law firm with close ties to the onetime front-runner, Kummer, Kaempfer, Bonner, Renshaw, and Ferrario. Former congressmen James H. Bilbray (D-Nev.), a lawyer at that firm, has endorsed Clinton and is stumping for her in the Silver State.
"The Democratic Party of Nevada has violated the principle of 'one person, one vote' by creating at-large precincts for certain caucus participants, based solely on the employment of such participants," the suit alleges".
Duplicity has won the Nevada Caucuses. How do you complain about the unfairness of holding caucuses in Casinos when you earnestly sought after the endorsement of the Union local that would benefit from it? How do you frame the person who received the endorsement as being dishonest to the people of Nevada? And people bought it! I just want to see how many more lies can the Clinton's tell before it catches up with them. And I would like to see Obama, who Has Not spoken effectively about the Clinton's, to do so and expose them for who they really are, WITHOUT the help of Edwards, ala New Hampshire.
He is a sore loser. Nothing more to it. If I didn't support him before, I certainly don't support him now. The Clintons have been talking about voting irregularities and concerns about pressure for a few days now. Obama kept silent when he thought it would benefit him, and now that he has lost, he is just acting like an immature adolescent. He lost. The Clintons said the game was not fair, he said it was, and said they were being divisive for suggesting otherwise. Now that he lost, he claims it wasn't fair. Pardon my french, but he is full of s**t.
THESE PEOPLE ABOVE DON'T LIVE HERE, THE OBAMA FLOWN IN PEOPLE AND THEIR COLLEGE KID FRIENDS ARE JUST TOO LATE. IGNORE THEM.
Wasn't it great making history tonight? What fun!!
NEVADA HAD IT'S SAY, SORRY TO ALL YOU OUT-OF-TOWNERS BUT YOU BEST MOVE ALONG OR YOU'LL LOSE THAT LEAD IN SOUTH CAROLINA TOO.
WE HAD OUR ELECTION AND IT COUNTS. POWER TO PEOPLE
WONDERFUL FOR HILLARY, NEVADA, AND TEAM USA!!!
Anyone that thinks Hillary can win the General election is in a different world. The Clintons are power-obsessed, and desperate to return to power. The question in November, should Hillary win the nomination is Do they deserve to return to the White House with all the scandals of the 90s:
Travel Office Firings
Monica Lewinsky scandal
Marc Rich Pardon Scandal
Hugh Rodham Scandal
The Clintons pardoned Marc Rich on their way out of the White House because they felt they will not be held accountable for their actions. Democrats may decide not to hold them accountable for their actions, Independents and Republicans will do so in November. Go Bloomberg, Go McCain, Go Obama. We shall end the Clinton/Bush era this November. It is over for the Clinton/Bush era. McCain is already saying he is running to restore the trust of the American people in their Government. Can the Clintons say that with all the scandals? Bush ran on restoring dignity to the office of the President, that would be the rallying cry of anyone running against Hillary, should the Democrats nominate Hillary.
Don't worry folks, the Clintons will destroy themselves. Now sit back and watch Obama gain delegates - 13 here to Clinton's 12 - and win SC.
obama and Clinton both have 37 delegates they told that on msnbc and fox news tonight. And monica liked smoking his cigar or she wouldn't have unwrapped it. you want to talk about scandals. why wasn't it ever told that mrs. bush while drunk driving run a stop sign and killed her own boyfriend. Because money talks and bu**s**t walks. Obama didn't vote for the war because he wasn't there that day, so he can say he didn't vote for it, he wasn't even there that day to say present.
Katy, the Clinton campaign was not lying about Obama's suspect votes on choice issues. Illinois chapter for the National Organization of Women indicated that they COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT endorse Obama for US Senate, choosing to endorse no one, because he had never been a leader in pro-choice issues. He voted present seven times, only one of these times was strategically planned with Planned Parenthood. It would be wrong to say he is anti-choice, but that's not what the email said...it said that he has not been a leader on this issue, which he has not been.
http://www.illinoisnow.org/
Nevertheless, I will concede that it was a bit of a cheap shot, and Obama has certainly taken his fair share of cheap shots as well. I don't think anything Hillary's campaign has done even compares to the BS Obama has pulled in Nevada. He refused to denounce the UNITE HERE ads even though they were blatantly suggesting the Clintons do not respect Hispanics as human beings (i.e. they are racist...don't even get me started on all the other race baiting he has engaged in without taking any sort of responsibility), and now he is being a sore loser. The Clintons did not want the strip caucus sites, but the judge ruled in a way that should have helped Obama...so no one was "disenfranchised" as he claims, except for the teachers who had to work caucus sites, nurses who had to care for patients, etc (and these are demographics that probably would have learned towards Hillary). The caucus was set up in a way that favored whoever got the Culinary endorsement, and that has been stated again and again. It favored Obama, an he still lost. Deal with it. ANd cut the crap about the 13 delegates. The Nevada Democratic Party has released a statement indicated no delegates have been apportioned. Why do people insist on perpetuating false information? Facts are stubborn things.
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is running for president. I have read his book "Dreams of My Father". This is a book written by Obama. In this book he gives us insight into his life so far.
In "Dreams of My Father", Barack Obama says his biological father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., was raised as a Muslim but lived as an Aetheist. Obama goes on to say that his mother and father divorced when he was two and his mother married his stepfather, Lolo Sotero. Both his mother and stepfather then became students in the Muslim East-West Center. At age 10, Obama was sent to live with his grandparents.
In his book Obama goes on to say that in college he "lived a party lifestyle of drugs and alcohol." He states that he used "pot, alcohol and cocaine" to get through his difficult life.
In 1993, at age 32, Barack Hussein Obama became a Christian.
What a load of crap !!!!!!!!!
This man was raised as a Muslim during his formidable years. Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.....he only joined a Christian church when he decided to go into politics and after the first US war in Iraq. He didn't want to be associated with Iraq's Sadaam Hussein, so poof ....all of a sudden he is a Christian.
Barack Obama voted against the Flag Desecration Act. He stated that this Act was a "violation of freedom of expression". Obama states that the email going around showing him not saluting the American Flag is not factual....he says that he does salute the American Flag ....sometimes. Just what we need...a president who doesn't think it is important to salute the flag of the country he governs. I am sure that all of our veterans who have fought for this flag will understand that one.
The National Rifle Association calls Obama "a true enemy of gun owners' rights". Obama is also against the death penalty. He states that it is not fair for someone who kills during a botched robbery should get the same death sentence as someone who kills with premeditation. Guess he thinks the person killed in a botched robbery isn't as dead.
Let's face it.....we cannot afford to have another Republican president ....and we sure as hell can't afford a president who does not respect us enough to salute our flag.........
So.....the way I see it,the only choice we have is Hillary Clinton. We don't have to like her to know that she will always support our flag. And she is not a johnny come lately for healthcare. She has always supported national healthcare.....this is healthcare for everyone in the United States. And we all know that thanks to her husband and his enemies, Hillary has no secrets. We know everything about her.
In California, Nevada, Arizona and Oregon, we can make a difference to the entire country. We have enough electoral votes to remind the country that we are here and we are a power to be reckoned with. It is time everyone stood up and took notice of what we have to offer.
I urge you to Vote Hillary Clinton for President.
After all that the Clintons have done in NV, they get 12 delegates, Obama get 13.
Many of you claim that the Clintons have many more superdelates. Ok but believe me, Obama will get more of them as time goes by.
As far as the website Hillary44 is concerned, Americans will no longer let a few people dictate the outcome of an election. If Hillary44 was an Obama site, the Clintons would go to court to put it down. Bill Clinton would be barking like a dog in front of the reporters.
Imagine America voting in November between John McCain and Hillary Clinton. Do you actually believe that Hillary will win? No!
http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S...
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story...
As I wrote before:
The devil himself can descend in NV and vote for Hillary, He may even bring all his armies. All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
Bill Clinton may yell at reporters, he may even bark. All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
Marketer and political strategists may repackage Hillary Clinton and sell her to us; All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
All Clinton support can vote for her as long as they want; All that will not matter. Hillary will not be the next president of the United States.
Why?
Americans in the vast majority are people with a good judgment. They know and see what the Clintons are.
Though I support Hillary Clinton, I would like to state that Barack Obama is not a muslim (not that it should matter), and we all know that. That is an unfair and excessively personal attack, and it is absolutely false. Let's focus on the people as indiviuals and consider who is best prepared to lead our nation and where these candidates stand on the issues.
You are all a bunch of hypocrites and bigoted fools! What happened to the democratic party that talked the talk, and walked the walk that they talked!
The present day no spine democrats talk out of both sides of their mouth, and have sold out to the big money special interests, so they can play at being president!
They are no different than the narrow minded republicans, and they will probably loose the election!
The democratic base of the party is on the verge of leaving this democratic party because it has become worthless!
The HELL with you opportunistic idiots!
I'm joining the GREEN PARTY!
"Dogs" is the only words to describe the Clintons.
They work their butt off like snow dogs to get what they want. Love them or hate them, know one thing for sure, they will "work", not just talk.
President Clinton walking the strip to win common peoples vote. That apparently did not please some elites. Elites just forget, before he was president, he was a trashy white boy from Arkansas brought up by a single mom. He knows the realities of this world.
Clintons don't forget who they are, unlike others who are confused if they are white like Regan, or black like "Regan's hated Caddilac driving single black mom from project".
Congratulation to the trashy white boy and his middle class wife :-)
At this moment, no one has any National Democratic delegates from Nevada. These delegates will be allocated in April (after Super Tuesday) by Nevada’s State Democratic Convention.
Clinton currently has a 55 delegate lead over Obama. Her lead comes from the delegates she won in the primaries and caucuses so far and from the super delegates that have pledged to support her. The lead also takes into account the delegates won by Obama and the super delegates that have pledged to support him.
Obama may be able to out pace Clinton in future super delegate commitments, but future super delegate pledges will depend greatly on who does well in the future primaries.
Obama will most likely win in South Carolina and Clinton will most likely win the Florida beauty contest.
Though Obama may do very well on Super Tuesday, the way many of these primaries are set up only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic primary. This is the case in California, New York & New Jersey for example. Many of these states have a large Hispanic population and obviously a large number of women. So if the voting trends continue (Obama having an advantage among men, African Americans, independents and Republicans – Clinton having an advantage among women, Hispanics and registered Democrats) the odds are in Clinton’s favor to expand her delegate lead over Obama coming out of Super Tuesday.
Will all you Clintobama people quit arguing:
They have far more in common than their slight, minor differences.
You are all voting on personality issues, while the substance of our lives will remain the same under either candidate.
Remember that, when either of them disillusions you later on (like all those who voted for Dubya and now want their country back).
ITS AMAZING HOW THE CLINTONS CAN ACTUALLY MAKE INAPROPIATE COMMENTS AND THEN TRY TO MAKE IT SEEM THE OTHER CANDIDATE SAID SOMETHING WRONG. WHEN HIS STAFF COMMENTS ON THEIR INNAPROPIATE REMARKS. THEY POINT THE FINGER AND THEN PLAY ON SOME OF OUR INTELIGENCE (SOME). THEY START SUBTLE ATTACKS THEN PLAY DUMB.AFTER THEY ATTACK THEY SAY YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME OR FIRE THE STAFF MEMBER, BUT THE DAMAGE IS DONE. THAT HASN'T HAPPENED TO OBAMA
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people longing for Bill Clinton to be president again need to think twice --
Bill Clinton presided over a terrific economy not the least of which was because of the advent of the internet and that impact on the US ecomony
That's not going to happen again -
Also: if will never be before 9/11 again -- the world is different.
You can say this is a generational divide, you can say it is a racial divide - I submit it is an intellectual divide
Team Clinton thinks they can twist and change the argument to suit them wherever they are an who ever the audience is - and sad to say there is some evidence that is working
I am over 50 and a woman and I support Barack Obama. Partially because I want my children to grow in a less divisive world where truth matters. Where ideas matter. Where we can travel abroad and be proud to be American again. Where we have a president who has sound judgement and gets it right the first time.
Where we know our country can do better than having presidents from only two families for decades.
That's my dream
I would never EVER vote Obama so if hillary loses...it's Mcain or Romney...GA Dems for Hillary
When Hillary wins the GE and it is obvious she will be our next president, the US dollar will climb against world currencies like a rocket. Be prepared.
The only thing I got out of this is that the Caucuses are confusing. Clinton got a popular majority, so why didn't Nevada just have a party primary election?
Obama got one more caucus delegate than Clinton, but they don't really count delegates until after the caucuses?
So what's the point--why did they even hold this event if none of the results end in a final official decision?
Delegates, Delegates, Delegates! That is what matters. Why doesn't everyone wake up and realize the fact of the matter is, they (Washington Politicians who are the Republican and Democratic Parties) don't believe the popular vote (which is we the people) can pick the president. That is why both parties work so hard in the NH and Iowa events to get their major papers to endorse the candidates they want on the ticket. Clinton vs McCain. They also have these super delegates that are already in Clinton's back pocket for the Democrats. These are just in case, you know they don't like who the popular vote is putting on the ticket. Don't believe me? Check it all out. It's there for you to research. Check out this web site (http//:www.msnbc,msn.com/id/18277678/page/1). I think it's about time we the people either did something about this, or shut up and just let them tell us who is running and save everyone money and the fighting which only politicians can bring out in us so well. How much have you donated to this campaign which is costing everyone millions? How many e-mails do you get from Republican or Democratic chairs asking you to support the cause? It's not our cause, they have taken it out of our hands. I know some of you will say I'm crazy, but hopefully others will stop and think and research it. Until this happens and only then will anything change.
For those of you who don't want four more years of Republican rule, why not make an assessement as to who is the most electable candidate.
Hillary Clinton has a 54% negative rating -- the highest of any political candidate since the inception of the Gallup Poll. Republicans and Independants will cross over to vote for Obama. They will not for Hillary. Many Democrats awoke to Bill Clinton's detrimental centrist policies and do not want him in the White House. Many more Republicans are committed to the proposition of never allowing him to get into their White House again -- ever. Everything Hillary and Bill have planted about Obama have proven to be lies, speculation, distortions. Speaking of lies, please don't think the Republicans will be hesitant to bring up Travel Gate, Vince Foster, Peter Paul, and "Living History" which the Repubs characterize as Hillary's book of "living lies" and they have proof. You think they swiftboated Kerry -- wait'll they get a hold of Clinton. They've already said they don't know how to campaign against Obama -- so in showing that you're for a woman, or how much you love the Clintons or for whatever reason you might vote for her -- if she wins the nomination the Dems can kiss the White House goodbye for another 4 or 8 years. I urge you to put your prejudices and biases aside and think about what's best for the party, not somebody's ego. As John Kerry said, "loyalty cannot be a factor when we have so much at stake"
http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?...
why obama should win -- speech today at Ebenezer Baptist Church (home of MLK)
he may not - but we will be the poorer for it
Obama should not win - just more words and words are nothing without actions. It's time to take the racist rhetoric of his supporters out of this campaign before we all suffer.
did anyone hear obama speak at the church where MLK jr went to church. I listen to some of it and had to turn it. That was pitiful, he tried so hard to sound like MLK jr. He will never be MLK or speak like him so stop trying Obama. Obama is useing Reagan to help him in this election , Reagan hurt this country in so many ways, now obama is useing MLK to get votes. I had a lot of respect for MLK and what he did. obama ask the blacks in nevada not to forsake him. clinton did not split brown from black but obama is sending this country back to the days of MLK, he is trying to divide this country. Obama is a divider not a uniter, he is putting back up that wall that MLK worked so hard to tear down. Martin Luther King had a dream and obama is walking all over it for his own gain.
Obama is a fine, ethical man and it breaks my heart to see the dirty Clinton political machine try to destroy him. I respect him as a man and he would bring people together and make us proud to be Americans. Hillary brings out the worst in everyone and makes me ashamed to be a woman.
Did you hear Obama ask the blacks not to foresake him? If you did, where was it at. They have film on everything, I would like to hear it. He doesn't talk like that. I've listened to too many of his speeches, and alot of other candidates trying to make up my own mind on who to support. He doesn't talk like that. Don't put words in his mouth. Enough people do that for him.
Clarification** of Statement by Nevada Democratic Party Chair Jill Derby
(Las Vegas, NV) “The Nevada Democratic Party and its officials have taken great effort to maintain our neutrality in the presidential campaign and the integrity of our process. Today, two out of three Nevadans who caucused chose a Democrat instead of a Republican for president. That is an overwhelming majority vote for a new direction. Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the County Convention, of which Senator Clinton won the majority. No national convention delegates were awarded. That said, if the delegate preferences remain unchanged between now and April 2008, the calculations of national convention delegates being circulated by the Associated Press are correct. We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support.
The Clinton years were funny but not fun. We were the laughing stock of the world. There was scandal after scandal, sexual harrassment charges against Bill on numerous occasions, the semen stained dress, missing documents and mysterious suicides, the topsy turvey economy where some made a killing and others went broke, the dot com crash before the Clinton term ended, the White House furniture Hillary tried to take when they finally left. The Bush family was like a breath of fresh air. Little did we know they were on the same page. I wouldn't want to relive the politics of the 90's to today. We need change. Obama for president.
Jill Derby is wrong. Check it out yourself. Obama 13 delegates to county convention. Clinton 12 delegates to county convention. Are you telling me the delegates will be forced to change their candidate when they get to county convention? The way it works is each caucus location was to elect the delegates from the supporters for each candidate. They were suppose to elect an alternate also in case the delegate can't go. Those delegates are to go to county convention and support the candidate they were voted to do so for. We don't go to county convention and choose some other candidate unless the candidate has dropped out, then the delegate is free to choose another candidate. I know how it works. Research your facts before you listen to someone else and take their word for it and then try to make a case for something that isn't so.
After reading that brilliant speech today by Barack, I came across this...
"Hillary, Barack, Experience" Nicholas Kristof - The New York Times
"Alternatively, look at the five presidents since 1900 with perhaps the most political experience when taking office: William McKinley, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush. They had great technical skills — but not one was among our very greatest presidents....
...The Democrats with the greatest Washington expertise — Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson — have already been driven from the race. And the presidential candidate left standing with the greatest experience by far is Mr. McCain; if Mrs. Clinton believes that’s the criterion for selecting the next president, she might consider backing him."
The speech is at barackobama.com and politico.com.
Nevada, you got the delegates right but the wrong person is on the front page.
The statement by Jill Derby was biased--it mentioned one candidate by name and not the other--she mentioned Clinton and not Obama.
Why would the official statement of the Nevada Democratic Party be that either candidate won, when the process isn't done until the delegates are chosen national convention. It seems to imply, that the county delegates are going to change who they support between now and the national convention. So again, what was the point of holding this event when it doesn't results in official win of delegates?