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Published Wednesday, Sept. 22, 2010 | 2:03 p.m.
Updated Wednesday, Sept. 22, 2010 | 2:25 p.m.
Angle opposes insurance mandates
As key provisions of new federal health care legislation come into effect tomorrow, Democrats are emphasizing Republican senate candidate Sharron Angle’s opposition to mandating insurance coverage for basic illnesses.
In a video of Angle at a 2009 tea party rally released by the party’s tracker, Angle appears to mock a recently passed Nevada mandate for insurance carriers to cover treatment for autism.
“Take off the mandates for coverage in the state of Nevada and all over the United States,” she shouts. “But here you know what I’m talking about. You’re paying for things you don’t even need.
“They just passed the latest one, is everything that they want to throw at us now is covered under 'autism',” she said, using exaggerated air quotes to deliver the word ‘autism.’
Angle believes government mandates on insurance companies to provide certain coverage increases the cost of insurance for everyone. She’s an opponent of the health care legislation recently passed by Democrats and has said she would work to repeal it if elected.
Key provisions of that legislation, including requiring insurance companies to cover children with pre-existing conditions, removing life-time coverage caps and allowing young adults children to stay on their parents’ policies take effect this week.
Well bless her Christian heart. I'm sure Jesus Christ would feel the same, right?
BOTTOM LINE: The liberal govt. is taking the best health care system in the world, which only needed some minor improvements, and creating the largest bureaucratic boondoggle in the history of the world! JUST THE FIRST PHASE of the 2,500 page Obamacare outline has already created an ADDITIONAL 2,000 pages of regulations to implement it! Can anyone comprehend this? So, "Obama's Folly" is already over 4,000 pages long and we've just begun! Holy toledo! Is this what you folks who put these socialists in power wanted? GOD HELP US!
now tell me again ....''you want to eliminate maternity coverage ".wow i knew you hated anchor babies but that sounds like you don't like any babies .
"She's an opponent of the health care legislation recently passed by Democrats and has said she would work to repeal it if elected."
This statement just made her unelectable.
It is okay to say you want to repeal something. But ONLY if you have something better to offer.
All this idiot wants to do is repeal. With no other alternative at all.
It is readily apparent that she is following the typical Republican Party line. You MUST be healthy to be an American. And if you get sick, you are encouraged to die quickly...move out of the way to make room for the healthy Americans. In the Republican world, if you are sick and in need of medical assistance, you just don't fit in...go sit down in an emergency room somewhere and wait a few hours...someone will be around to take care of you...eventually.
I am personally going to enjoy going to the voting booth and slapping every Republican I see on the ballot with my vote for a Democrat.
Call me biased, but I don't care. Democrats show they care for people. Republicans? No. They could care less about you.
Only time they'll care for you is if you were to stand there in front of them holding out $22,000.00 in cash. And even then they'll berate you for not reaching deeper into your pockets and contributing more.
Some rotten insurance companies, backed by Republicans like Angle, now are dropping coverage of babies!!!
This is what happens when the Republican Party of No impedes progress on health care. If the Republicans come back to power, the insurance companies will really rake us over the coals again!
This is the GOP plan: "reform" in the vein of loopholes, carve-outs, exceptions, etc that serve only the corporations, not the consumers.
Every opportunity these health care corporations have had to make the right choice, they've chose the opposite. They've chose to renege on contracts and on coverages. They've chose to institute lifetime coverage limits, deny coverage to victims of domestic abuse, etc.
Sharron Angle doesn't seem to understand reality.
Harry Greed is going to lose. To think democrats would want anyone in america to remember this healthcare bill and how they crammed it through is amazing. Im so glad Sharron Angle is going to defeat this politician who thinks he owns his senate seat.
This is getting so down and dirty, I'm fed up with both Parties.
WHat you see is what you get. Forrest Gump was a very smart man
when he said "Dumb is as Dumb does" . Does anyone need more then those kind of statements to make up their minds about this candidate.
Once again, Angle shows she is on the side of the corporations and against the average Nevadan! The Republicans and the Tea Parties are just a front for the wealthy and corporations! So many dumb people keep falling for this crap!
She opposes mandates for things that are not actually autism. So what?
Angle's husband is retired fed (BLM) and she was a teacher and former state legislator- pretty good insurance for life I imagine. So who is she to deny health insurance to Americans who need it?
Were her and her husband's work history so stellar that they deserve more than the working American?
How much of her health insurance benefits does she feel is unneeded and how much is she willing to give up before she tries to mess with the health insurance of others?
What a selfish, heartless ghoul.
Let's just give all entire paycheck to either uncle sam or for healthcare.
That will make Harry Reid very happy.
Thank God that Sharron Angle is the dimmest candidate ever. She keeps giving every sane voter in Nevada a chance to understand that she only wants to hep and protect large corporations while saying "NO" to the average person.
We sure don't need a second Party of NO Senator from Nevada.
Just vote NO Sharron Angle representing Nevada.
Nasty.
Right-wingers such as Angle and Huckabie opposing health care being made available for people with conditions is one (bad enough) thing; calling themselves Christians while doing so is the height of hypocrisy.
Have you really paid attention to how Angle sounds when she talks? Out of breath, like she has a breathing problem? Sharron and her husband live respectivley on a state and federal paid pension plan. I guess the both of them have good medical insurance thanks to the tax payers. She now wants a job that will pay her additonal income and benefits, including health care thanks to us, but the rest of us according to her have to suck it up. This woman will lose this election and she needs to quit running for office no matter how much she wants to suck on the governent t*t.
The Proxies of the Corporate GreedMeisters are against Health Care Reform because it CUTS INTO THEIR "CONSTITUENTS" POCKETS!
Autism rates are skyrocketing.
That will cost money.
Thusly, there is a tremendous angst by CEO's that their bonuses will shrink.
Therefore, we can't be treating Autism as the disease it is.
Sharron Angle REPRESENTS THAT IDEOLOGY.
AUTISM???
"That's just made-up junk-science like this 'Global Warming' crap; Well, I've been around Uranus & back in my spaceship, and it's HOT ALL OVER! Autism? What they need is a darn good lickin'!"
She's not only heartless,she's an idiot and the gullible Kool Aid Drinkers who have fell ffor her nonsense and the rest of the Tea Party are as idiotic as she is.
She will be a useless tool in the Senate for Nevada and America.
@ Ridor "Right-wingers such as Angle and Huckabie opposing health care being made available for people with conditions is one (bad enough) thing; calling themselves Christians while doing so is the height of hypocrisy."
That's the truth. For them, it's money first, not people. She and the hubby have pensions and health insurance paid by us, the taxpayers. Why don't they just stay home and enjoy retirement instead of trying to ruin social security and medical care for everbody else?
Wait till the next rally and she will have a different opinion. Every week she changes her mind on what she stands for. Maybe a puppet for whomever contributed the most that week.
"She will be a useless tool in the Senate for Nevada and America."
Ah, so just like Reid is now?
How dare Sharron Angle bash autistic kids like this! So she doesn't think autistic kids deserve health care? Well, I don't think she deserves my vote! I have autistic kids in my family. They're good kids, and their developmental disability is not their fault and clearly nothing that Angle understands.
Shame on Sharron Angle!
Only in your state can a kook like angle get so much money in donations. Nevada must have the stupidest people in the nation in it.
This is an amazing quote and I hope Reid uses it extensively in his ads:
"How about maternity leave, I'm not going to have any more babies, but I sure get to pay for it on my insurance. So those are the things we want to get rid of."
Hurry up November so we don't have to hear about her anymore.
Sharron Angle believes most people should pay their premiums and get little or no coverage, but for her, only the best applies. I wish she'd talk about the government insurance she has through her husband's former employer (BLM).
Why should we taxpayers have to cover someones defective kid??? First the kid is not mine. This is welfare, and pure socialism. Lets face reality, if the kid has a defect, there is a good chance the parents are druggies or abused Alcohol when they were younger, and we are suppose to help them now?? Why so the kid will grow up and mug me ?? Hurray for Sharron Angle !!
The crazy woman is heartless, like most greedy
republicans.
It's interesting that Ms. Angle does not hesitate to slam any bill that has to do with other people's kids, but she very seldom talks about her own children and grandkids. . .that's kind of unusual. You also don't see very many photos of her with her husband, either. Guess she doesn't want to remind everyone of his government pension. She is not qualified, and does not appear to be a stable person.
Your comment is the crux of the matter, peaceperson.
I have noticed that all throughout the rhetoric Sharron Angle says non-stop, never once do you hear about any issue that affects her and/or her huband and/or her family.
But it sure seems like everything else is fair game.
According to her ideals, anyone who can lose benefits, entitlements and/or funding such as senior citizens, veterans, autistic children, Hipanics, you name it....she's all for it.
It even encompasses Yucca Mountain Project. Sharron Angle is from Reno. So she could care less if southern Nevada turns into a wasteland due to an accident. She and her family are not affected.
If people wake up and look at all her positions, it's very clear that she's in this for herself. And, if she gets into office, she will continue this trend. She won't represent Nevada. She'll turn it into her playground.
@ sandy99 Sept. 22, 2010 7:39 p.m.
"Have you really paid attention to how Angle sounds when she talks? Out of breath, like she has a breathing problem? "
---Well, yes. Blowhards blow hard.
Angle: "How about maternity leave, I'm not going to have any more babies, but I sure get to pay for it on my insurance. So those are the things we want to get rid of."
You and your extreme rightwing comrades are against birth control prescriptions, and you don't want insurance coverage for pregnancy and children. Get rid of your own absurdity. Your Federal insurance plan will pay for it.
@ jaunsanchez Sept. 22, 2010 10:49 p.m
"Why should we taxpayers have to cover someones defective kid??? First the kid is not mine. This is welfare, and pure socialism. Lets face reality, if the kid has a defect, there is a good chance the parents are druggies or abused Alcohol when they were younger, and we are suppose to help them now?? Why so the kid will grow up and mug me ?? Hurray for Sharron Angle !!"
---There is a good chance cruelty and avarice are in the right-wingnut genome.
::She opposes mandates for things that are not actually autism""
Hogwash. AB 162 defines autism spectrum disorder as "a neurobiological medical condition including, without limitation, autistic disorder, Asperger's Disorder and Pervasive Developmental Disorder Not Otherwise Specified."
It's not fetal alcohol syndrome. It's not a plethora of other impairments. And if anyone thinks this evil dingbat's efforts to portray autism as just any old thing are spot on, there's a spot reserved in hell for you.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
::liberal govt. is taking the best health care system in the world,::
What a laugh. Check out the Central Intelligence World Factbook's statistics on US longevity and infant mortality and then come back here and talk about where the best healthcare in the world can be found. Check out The Commonwealth Fund's reporting on healthcare around the world. We spend double or more than other countries whose citizens are far healthier and better cared for.
If we have the best healthcare in the world, why are Americans beating it out of the US to get any number of medical/surgical treatments done abroad? Google "medical tourism" sometime and see how many hits you get. And by the way -- unless they're Arab princes and their families, they ain't coming here.
99.9% of Americans couldn't get in to see the top doctors in this country, even when they are insured. A growing number of doctors don't even take insurance anymore.
See how "bestest" you think your healthcare is if you ever join the ranks of the uninsured or underinsured. It could easily happen to you, or your kids. I almost hope it does happen to you if you buy into that noise spun by the GOP and AHIP.
I'm voting for Angle
Anything she say's is taken out of context, this news paper will do anything, and even distort the truth in order to get Senator Reid reelected, he continues to pander to illegal aliens, it's Senator Reid who is helping to turn America into a third world country. In 2006 he voted for illegal aliens to have access to Social Security, he also voted NO on having the border fence built, and then on his latest ads he says that Sharron Angle is lying. Now all of a sudden he sponsors a bill to fund protecting the borders, why? Because it is an election year.You cannot silence the truth, and all of this will come back to bite Harry in the end.
Angle: "How about maternity leave, I'm not going to have any more babies, but I sure get to pay for it on my insurance. So those are the things we want to get rid of."
This is the same as saying I don't want to pay for schools anymore because my children are grown. Sorry folks but someone else paid for your children after they were grown or born. The taxpayers paid Mangles insurance when her kids were born.
@ pmontg53 Sept. 23, 2010 9:48 a.m
"Anything she say's is taken out of context..."
---In any context everything she says is out there.
Remember never trust a Republican.
So what if your child has a potentially bankrupting disability, medical insurance that you pay for shouldn't have to pay for it - live in a cardboard box, make lemonade!!
This woman obviously HATES other women - voting against a domestic violence bill, the right to choose, cervical cancer vaccine, now maternity leave and autism coverage???
Oh, wait, I'll bet she's never actually had to deal with any of those issues...
Please someone explain to me what's wrong with this crazy woman!!!
jaunsanchez and pmontg53 are both drinking out of the same Koolade jar. I have heard few things over the past few years that are as heartless and cruel as is jaun's post of 10:49. What an absolute waste of skin you must be. Saying that an autistic kid is probably that way because "there's a good chance the parents were druggies or alcohol users" is so far out of the realm of reality that I question your sanity. I hate to say it, but your statement is in the same vein as stating that some kids of Mexican heritage are fat because "their parents probably ate too any beans". Total ignorance from a hateful person. You should be ashamed of yourself. Does your Mamacita know the crap that you spew. I don't think she would be proud of your rantings.
As for pmontg53, you are just too eaten up with your blind hatred for Harry Reid to recognize how much of a radical wing-nut Angle is, and will vote for her regardless of her ignorant views, i.e. her stand on forcing a victim of rape or incest to bear the product of that vile act because "it's God's plan for her". Have you no shame?
It is very possible this person could be elected to the US Senate. Since she shows no "movement" toward a more centrist-conservative model and away from the Limbaugh Loonies, we have little choice but to return Mr. Reid to the Ritz Carlton (residence part -- like an apartment, pays monthly --I checked) so Ms. Angle can return to her undervalued Reno home. So, so sad. I hope no children live in her neighborhood -- although with her around it's like Halloween every day.
She must not be so bad; she's neck and neck with the veteran Senator. She's going to make Nevada a very good and honest Senator. I don't necessarily agree with everything Sharron say's, most of us don't agree with everything that our own Pastors, or Church members , Sharron Angle have a lot more in common with the average Citizen than Senator Reid, Senator Reid like most of the Democratic Party wants to Socialize the United States. I know that I am sick of people having babies, and my tax dollars are going toward supporting raising their Children, the thing about Autism is clearly taken out of context. Then you have Senator Reid who is helping to give this Country away, and there is nothing wrong with that. This news paper said that Sharron Angle distorted the truth on Reid's record on border security, that a bunch of crap.
Can you believe how Senator Reid Voted on Illegal Immigration: doe's this sound like a Man who cares about his country?
Senator Reid Lied on his TV Ad when he said that he never supported giving Social Security Benefits to illegal aliens; anyone of you Reid supporters can go to Congress's web site, and pull it up for you self, the man out right lied, Mrs.Damon crafted an article saying that Sharron Angle distorted the truth. I hope that that article is challenged by the Angle committee. Damon should appolize publicly for distorting the truth
Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
Voted NO on protecting middle-income taxpayers from a national energy tax. (Apr 2009)
Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on Congressional pay raise. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
Voted YES on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts. (Jul 1995)
Reject photo ID requirements for voting. (Sep 2005)
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
Rated 0% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006)
Sarah Palin is going to reload on Angle.
Talk about cruelty, here's an article regarding Mike Huckabee's speech at the Values Voters Summit last week regarding health insurance. These people are Sharron Angle's comrades.
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"Sick Bastards"
Wednesday 22 September 2010
by: William Rivers Pitt, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed
http://www.truth-out.org/sick-bastards63...
WOW jaunsanchez you're a real piece of work.
If you're born with a condition that maybe your parents' behavior contributed to, you should just suck it up. Don't expect jaunsanchez to contribute to the risk pool so you can have healthcare.
Rep Grayson has it right, the Republican plan is if you get sick, "die quickly and get out of my way! I've got to go watch a semi-celebrity eat a bug on TV"
I think scientologists don't believe in mental illness and I'll bet she doesn't believe autism is real.
This is like her lobbying for having massage as part of rehab for prisoners. None of them are nuts they just need to relax.
Angle is the worst of the worst.
ON NOVEMBER 2, SLAM THE DOOR ON ALL
GREEDY REPUBLICANS.
AnjeanetteDamon: Your colleague Jon Ralston wrote
Senator staff believe they unearthed another instant classic this Angle at a 2009 Tea Party in Winnemucca ridiculing a legislative mandate to cover autism. Team Reid played it as Angle mocking those with autism, but that was,an extreme interpretation. Angle was deriding government's expansive approval of mandates for illnesses and using autism as an example.
dated 8/24/2010 in a Las Vegas Sun Article. Once the public stop trusting what you say you lose your credibility. I can't trust anything that you or Jon Ralston say. I respect you as a Journalist, but continually attacking Sharron Angles with distorted comments, and in some cases out right lies is more than I can take. Not only do you lose credibility with the public, you loose customers for the Las Vegas Sun.
As for all you who made comments about this being true, and Sharron Angle being heartless, I have a relative who has autism, I've met Sharron Angle, she is not the crazy lady that Harry Reid wants voters to believe she is,you know what's crazy? killing a defenseless child in the womb, not only is that barbaric,but also demonic, that is what most Democrats support- Than some of you who rationalizes loose behavior insist that Politicians like Angle is crazy for being a pro life politician. Anyone who thinks that it is okay to cut an innocent little baby out of it's mother is Crazy. Any Christian who supports Politicians who is a gate keeper for abortion are fooling themselves, and a lot of my Black Sisters are killing babies more than any other race, when Abortion was designed to annihilate the black race, and the Black Politicians could care less about our Race, all they want to do is get paid. We will all have to answer to Almighty God one day for how we treated the innocent. Time to get off the Democratic plantation
http://www.nbra.info/
Sharron is looking out for all those without autism, children or a community spirit. "Let them take care of their own damn goofed up kids!!!"
Usually a person running for senate brings out their family for show. Where is her family? makes you wonder if her own kids think that she is nuts and they should know they lived with her.
Sharon Angle may change her mind when someone she loves is diagnosed with autism.
I took her statement to mean that they would simply lump many different things under 'autism' for lack of a better place to lump it.
is she trying to lose? Hello your talking to state that hires part time workers who are denied insurance cuse companys dont want full time benift paying employees and has a very large senior base these programs are helping the comman person go to the doctor and live a better standared of care than before!
I just cant for her she just does not get nevada
Upon reading the list of Reid's voting record I'd have to say we've hit rock bottom - so if we vote for Angle we can only go up or remain the same - it can't get any worse as far as I can tell. I'm sick of Harry Reid so I'll take my chances with Angle - like I said, he's already put us rock bottom. And I DO believe that a lot of the ads run by Reids campaign HAS taken Angles' words out of context in MANY instances. I only wish they'd BOTH stop this bullcrap and for once tell us what they WILL do instead of doing nothing but slinging mud at each other :(
To those questioning 'where's Sharon's family" etc. one might ask the same of Harry Reid - oh ya, that's right his son is running for Governor and doesn't even want to use his last name. Just 'Vote for Rory'....ok, got it.
If health insurance is too expensive, and that is one of your main complaints about reform, DONT create policies that make it even more expensive.
Creating mandates (which offer free or near free treatments) for various things from alcoholism and drug abuse to autism, make insurance more expensive.
Limiting competition (Nevada prohibits you from buying out of state policies) also forces prices up.
You lying pieces of garbage. Angle was talking about how the democate controlled congress, tags or adds on to every bill, hundreds of other things that they want funded. How the writer of this acticule and the left want to distort what Sharron said is almost crimminal. Do you actually believe that the voters are so stupid, that they can not see through your blantant lies. She never once says, not to fund autism. I guess when all the articules written in the Sun are done through hate filled eyes, this is the kind of responce you would expect from left wing, hate mongers.
Insurance, by very definition, is the equitable transfer of the risk of a loss, from one entity to another, in exchange for payment. In the case of health insurance, the loss being mitigated is the loss of one's health. Once a particular condition is determined to a true health loss, quibbling over whether to cover 'snake oil' remedies is equivocation.
As it relates to autism specifically, surely we've arrived at the conclusion that is it a true developmental chronic health issue. However, it is one that responds to very specific early intervention. Further, 'evidence based' is qualified quite clearly in this bill. It is not open to wild interpretation, but rather limited in scope to the diagnosis and remedies that have been identified as relevant to the treatment of autism by the scientific community.
Further, Angle's hyperbole about not paying for pregnancy insurance because she isn't going to have any more children is obfuscating. The simple answer here is that insurance is a product. If you don't want to pay for it, then don't buy the product. If one wants to bear the risk of loss, then that person should be held accountable for the full cost of remedy. But to specifically carve out which among the known and true health issues insurance will cover is to undermine the product of health insurance. I'd further argue that breaking insurance into discreet conditions would greatly increase the total cost of insurance. Just imagine what your policy costs would look like if you had to elect for the cancer, pregnancy, head injury, limb loss, self and dependent options all explicitly.
Sharron Angle should be waving a Colt M1911 pistol around when she rants on subjects like this, that will get her desert base "fired up" don t ya know, you betcha..
So tell me Patrick, if your child or grandchild had autism - and your insurance or your child's insurance refused to cover treatment, what would be your solution???
Would you prefer parents of autistic children just go bankrupt or become homeless to provide treatment to the child? Would you prefer autistic children just be institutionalized?
Tell me Patrick, what would you do?
Jenlv, Patrick probably can't answer you because Patrick can't think that far out. All Patrick knows is he's not autistic, doesn't know anyone with an autistic child, and wouldn't care if he did. That's their problem, and they probably are just undisciplined kids.
I bet Patrick thinks he's a Christian, too. Okay, Patrick, tell us all: what would Jesus do?
Patrick seems to assume that everyone who wants insurance can just go get a job with a "good company" that provides it. Hilarious. If he knew anything about individual insurance (and all the people who have been forced to try and obtain it) he'd know how the health insurers in this country decline such insurance over things far simpler than autism.
If Patrick ever had to insure his own family (assuming he has one) he might know that in many states coverage could be denied over things as simple as a wife having had depression during menopause, or a son who has acne, or a wife with fibromyalgia or migraines. Perhaps Patrick wouldn't even care about any of that, of course, because his head is comfortably in the sand and he has no sense of what makes for a society people actually want to live in. And he's never read a thing about the success of government-sponsored healthcare in places like the Netherlands, Japan, Germany, France, or Sweden, just to offer a few examples. He'd rather take his knowledge from fonts of ignorance like Sharron Angle and Sarah Palin.
Don't look for answers from Patrick. He has none.
Angles is right certain mandates will increase health care insurance and cost. But, it doesn't matter, Obama Health Care Reform has already increased premiums. There is no way to provide free, prevented care, vaccinations and insuring adult children 26 yoa and not see an increase in your health insurance premium. The problem, everyone pays, except those who use medicaid and don't has health insurance. People Angle is not in Washington, anything she says now won't matter, she will not have to the votes to change Social Security, Medicare and other social programs. Harry Reid is in Washington and he did change social programs even though he doesn't think so. Seniors, we are paying out more in Social Security benefits that they system is bringing in for the first time in 75 years, that is a change and this will be how the system will operate from this point forward unless we find new resources to boust Social Security trust fund. Medicare, Harry Reid had cut Medicare at the tune of $400 million to pay for Health Care Reform, this will mean less services and less reimbursement to your doctor. Bailouts, stimulus, jobs bills, small business act, foreclosure aid all failures brought to you by Harry Reid, the only thing these programs did was raise the national debt to $14 trillion. Angle may not be the best choice for many, but she is harmless and will work to keep taxes low and get the national debt down. These are two areas that should concern you more. Without that, we will not be able to recover or end the recession.
express445- I hope you realize the insurance companies will use ANY excuse to raise premiums.
Sweet Christ on a cracker! She ACTUALLY said that? What, like Autism is FAKE? Oh my lord, why would anyone vote for this heartless woman? So much for loving Christian values....what the hell ever happened to love thy neighbour, and treat others as you'd like to be treated?
I can understand fiscal conservatism, I truly can, but this has just reached a level of insanity that is hard to comprehend. I'm honestly appalled. Is she in the Insurance companies pockets or something?
Really though, what kind of world DO these sick bastiges want to inhabit--where autistic kids get denied coverage--so their rates stay a few pennies lower???
I'm an opponent to mandated and universal health care as well, but I lived in countries where they have it, and I hate it. Most americans don't know what this is all about, and they are just thinking how good this is, and wonderful that everybody will be covered, go see a doctor at the first sign of an illness or just for regular check ups, get your medicines for almost nothing, and so on. Wake up, in order for me to get something that I didn't work or pay for someone else worked or paid for it and didn't get it, and I could be at either end.
Here is the easiest example how bad this is. I go out with two more friends to eat and drink all we like and can, no money issues. I love sushi, and sake, so I have plenty and don't get wasted. My friend #1 loves steak and beer, lots of beer so he got drunk, and my friend #2 is a vegan, so salad and water. We decided to split the bill in equal parts, it's the best for all of us, right? Who do you think wants to go out and have dinner like this every day? Got it, that's universal health care for you. BTW, don't expect to get top notch treatment and/or medicines, see how Health Plan of Nevada or Nevada Health Plan or SEnior Dimensions or HPN is not accepted everywhere in town, just like Medicaid because they reimburse very little for goods/services and no independent business can survive on a 10% margin.
Autism, cancer, you name the most horrific illness you want, I assure you you won't get the treatment you are expecting and/or deserve with universal health care. How do I know? My mom lives in a country wiht universal free health care and she had to wait four months last time in order to get her treatment for cancer, the first time she had to wait six months. She has to make doctor's appt 90 days in advance, and better be there or you get penalized for not showing up, and make you wait an extra 30 days, unless you brive the doctor's secretary and she gets you back in 90 days, or you could brive her again, and she'll get you an appt in 60 days. Better yet, pay cash and you can see the doctor at her private office the next day. All these free staff leads to corruption and abuse of power by gov't officials and employees who know you have no choice since they took all the choices out of the equation. Americans are so naive if they fall into the "free" services provided by gov't.
victorb, What country are you talking about??? Most people I know do ask for FREE health care. They are willing to pay for it and want everyone to be able to have health care.
I watched a program on PBS called Sick Around The World. They looked at health care systems in several countries and I liked the Taiwan system. Taiwan examined health care systems all around the world and cherry picked the best ideas to create their low cost national health care system.
http://video.pbs.org/searchForm/?q=sick+...
Check out the Health Care Systems in other countries here.
http://video.pbs.org/searchForm/?q=sick+...
@victorb - I can agree that universal/mandated coverage is in no way shape or form perfect, but it surely is better than being grabbed by the balls by big insurance. Also, you cannot simply say NO and repeal everything without giving a viable solution. That in and of itself is NOT a solution.
Also consider this. When my father had a heart attack (he lives in Florida) he went into almost $75K in debt because his Insurers descided they no longer wanted to cover him. Either going into debt/bankruptcy or DYING should never be the options! If I were to have a heart attack here, (in Canada) yeah, I'll end up paying for things, some services, etc, but I sure as hell won't go bankrupt because I had to stay in a hospital for a week and needed life saving treatment. You get me?