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Published Tuesday, July 6, 2010 | 3:16 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, July 6, 2010 | 4:40 p.m.
Nevada Democrats today re-launched their version of GOP senate candidate Sharron Angle’s old campaign website.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s campaign yanked the website over the weekend after Angle’s lawyers sent a cease and desist letter, claiming Reid abused “proprietary materials” from Angle’s old site.
This afternoon, however, the Nevada Democratic Party put the site back up, claiming protection under the First Amendment.
“Out of an abundance of caution, the Reid campaign decided to temporarily remove the website in question while we investigated their allegations,” the Reid campaign said in a press release this afternoon. “Well, the phony legal threats and the feigned indignation are over — and we're not going to let Sharron Angle retroactively censor Sharron Angle.”
The Reid campaign claims Angle “scrubbed” her primary campaign website of incendiary views, replacing her issue positions with brief statements.
Her original website advocated for the elimination of federal departments such as the education department and phasing out Social Security.
Sharron Angle should not try to hide her TRUE positions from the voters.
All this subterfuge will just make Nevada voters question whether she has what it takes to represent mainstream Nevadans in Washington.
She's not ready for prime time!
Ms. Damon, I think you need to clarify your headline on this a bit more. Where in your article does it say Reid or his campaign is in fact behind the re-launch of the "archive" site? Where does your article talk about anyone claiming First Amendment privileges?
Beyond that, having just now been to the site in question, I have very serious problems with how this was done. It is impossible to tell what has been altered from the original site, and it is clear that some links have been altered to point to the "archive" site. The use of a GIANT jpeg image to reproduce the HTML is suspect as well (and VERY annoying to have to wait for to load). I also notice there are no links to a contribution page anywhere, which also means the page contents have been altered. Again, there is no way to verify the accuracy of this reproduction.
Also, at the bottom of the first page it says:
"PAID FOR BY THE NEVADA STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
NOT AUTHORIZED BY ANY CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATE'S COMMITTEE."
This clearly means that Reid is not doing this. (Okay, in theory it means that.)
It isn't about posting her positions, it is about the reid campaign pretending it is her site that caused the trouble. Accepting emails and other information from people thinking they were communicating with the Angle campaign is the same as identity theft.
Apparently the law doesn't apply to harry Reid, but there is nothing new about that.
Why does the new and improved Crazy Sharron hate the old, unimproved Crazy Sharron?
I expect no less from the Reids. Just look at how R. REID interfered with the Republican primary by running negative ads against Sandoval in the hopes of Gibbons winning. You can bet R. REID learned that trick from his father.
In this particular case I merely take issue with Ms. Damon's headline for this post and the actual contents thereof.
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Like Truman said (when someone said Give them hell Harry)
"I told the truth AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS HELL"
Think about it: Filing a Cease & Desist against materials that until recently were posted on YOUR OWN WEBSITE as your Gospel for all the world to see. Pretty freaky stuff...
boftx: Not quite as dirty as a former president I could name lying about, among other things, uranium cake and Weapons of Mass Destruction to get the POTUS to heavily invest in a couple of remarkably ill-advised wars for the last decade or so, probably for the sole purpose of making his business buddies and pals incredibly rich through the ripping off of the American public, eh? Talk about selling a phony bill of goods.
Sharron Angle can't hide the truth.
The truth is already out there.
We will never forget.
We Americans will never let Sharron Angle or
any other greedy republican, privatize Social
Security.
NO ONE has put forth any sort of proof that Reid was collecting information or emails from the re posted web site, if such a thing is even possible. I am still waiting for a shred of proof, or even a halfway credible allegation. Even the cease and desist demand letter doesn't make any accusations of such a thing. But it makes for some good conspiracy theories, especially if you don't want to talk about her true stances.
Face it: her views are extreme, they are not in line with rational thinking or even with most conservatives viewpoints. The woman is way, way out there, and instead of defending her nonsense all the pseudo-patriot set can do is talk around the issues and attack Reid. Negative and obstructionist; typical republicanism.
Give these greedy republicans HELL, HARRY.
Anti-Angle posters are desperate. They know Reid will be thrown out.
Or maybe a comparison that might strike boftx a little more close to home?
What about when Hillary took chapter and verse from McCain's GOP playbook during the primaries in 2008 while attacking Obama? Was that more or less acceptable than trying to get a weaker candidate in the general?
It's just something I'll never understand... someone who praised Hillary up and down during the campaign and now says Reid is the lesser of two evils? You realize that Reid is acting to the ideological RIGHT of Hillary's positions, boftx?
In fact, the final health care bill reads like it was sourced from the Clinton '08 campaign! Mandates, assistance for lower-income families... Hillary even called for a public option.
How do you reconcile that, boftx? How can you portray Reid as far-left when his actions have been to the right of the person you wanted to see in the White House?
Nice to see Harry supporting the first amendment...I wonder how he feels about democrats replacing it with a $40k fine and class D felony in order to hide their incompetence in stopping the gulf oil spill:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/bp-plc-...
@ LastThroes
LOL! I don't care what side of the debate you're on, that's funny right there!
But seriously, a stick with a couple of googly eyes glued to it would have been a better opponent against Reid. She's weak, and things like this will only make her look worse. Not that the taking down of the site make's Reid's camp and the Democrats look any better. Personally, I'd fire whomever the spineless fool was that just offers up a knee-jerk reaction to a simple cease and desist letter rather than actually being knowledgeable enough to know to ignore it.
Besides that, NOTHING that has ever been posted to the Internet is truly lost forever thanks to Archive.org. So good luck to anyone who ever tries to cover their tracks... Because you'll never do it.
ksand99,
It's good to see that you remember what I have said before. :)
Though I don't think I have ever said that Reid is the lesser of two evils. I have said that Angle is the lesser.
To be perfectly honest, I figured that Hillary would be able to reach a compromise with the Republicans and arrive at a good first step in healthcare reform. I've never liked mandates and thought they would be thrown out in favor of something more workable. I also heard Hillary say that NAFTA was a mistake and had reason to think she would deal with jobs first, before anything else.
Oh well, that didn't happen so we deal with what we have.
I accept that "dirty pool" is a relative term in politics. But sometimes you see something that hits a little too far below the belt.
Now, Sharon....don't be a bother to the omnipotent Sinator with details about copyright and such. If he can make the President of the United States come to town and shine his shoes, he surely has bought and paid for any judge that would (eventually) hear this case.
So just git along as Harry is quite busy writing the speech for the President to deliver Friday when he come to town and tells us how wonderful things are under him and Harry's rein. I can hardly wait until Rory is Governor, then Senator, and the PRESIDENT!!!!
tex, is there any reason you couldn't have waited to post that until AFTER I had supper?
I was fully prepared to make some sort of well thought out comment with regard to being careful about what you post on the internet because it will always come back to haunt you but then I read the comments and franky nothing beats "a stick with googly eyes pasted on it". That's the best! I'll be laughing about that one until the Nevada Wahoos vote this looney in.
Oh and as to that last business about "hitting too far below the belt". Are you kidding? It's her own site! Maybe she should have never published it to begin with! You want to talk about scary Fascist-type behavior. You're a total weirdo and your "party" thinks you're out in left field and then WHOOPSIE the weirdo gets nominated to run! Quick boys send out the white-wash squad and clean this candidate up STAT! George Orwell couldn't have imagined anything better than that.
sporty, that comment was in regards to R.Reid interfering in the Republican primary, not Angle's site.
One thing I've learned over the years is to stay the hell out of a family feud. Just ask any Army guy what would happen if he were dumb enough to interfere with a bar brawl between the Navy and Marines. :) (ex-Navy here)
So your pragmatism only goes so far, then?
I'm not following you, boftx. It seems you're attacking Rory just to attack him. What, specifically, is wrong with attacking your general election rival, front-runner or not, during the primary? Both Clinton and Obama attacked McCain during the Democratic primary.
Hart's attacks on Sandoval will continue on in Rory's campaign.
I just can't believe anyone thinks posting Sharron's own website is some dirty trick. Those are her words and ideas and voters should be able to review them without the gloss of the Washington makeover.
Unfortunately for Sharron, she's playing right into Reid's hands with this one. Without her alarmist whining, no one would have really noticed the site. Sharron's brought this misery upon herself. Her words, her site.
Unfortunately I didn't see the site before it was taken down the first time. but based on what others have said, and what I see now, there might have been reason to complain.
As for R. Reid, just look at Clark County, do you really think he will do any better for Nevada? It's his name at the bottom of all the union contracts on the County's (voters) behalf.
Angle hasn't come up with any stances or ideas, so she can make them up as she goes along !!!
No wonder Angle hangs out on Fox news.....bot make things up as they go and sell it to the public that's stupid enough to buy it.
Wow, and Arizona claimed 10th Amendment rights in passing a law to protect it's borders, but the Obama justice department is hellbent on overstepping the constitution to try and strike down the law. It will be a huge slap in Obama's face when the law is upheld...
OT, darthbry. Find another forum for your views. This article is about Senator Reid posting material from Sharron Angle's old website.
Harry, we are going to put you out of office, you are a done. grabbing at straws hahahaha.
Harry Reid will win by a landslide in November.
Republicans have NO LEADERS.
Harry Reid is a complete disgrace to Nevada and to the entire U.S...... Anyone that votes for Harry is a complete fool. He is a lier and will do anything to cheat to stay in power. It is time foe Nevada to say, No More Harry... See ya at the unemployment line.
Senator Harry Reid uses the First Amendment.
Sharron Angle, on the other hand, places more emphasis on exercising Second Amendment remedies.
Makes it an easy choice for me in November. Senator Reid knows how to use diplomacy, but Sharron Angle don't. This is clearly evident by her choosing to resort to violence.
We don't need an idiot like Sharron Angle in office as a Senator representing Nevada.
HARRY IS THE MAN!!!
They are all liars!!! We're all screwed!!
I will not vote for Angle, but I will not vote for Harry either. I am sitting this one out. I told Harry many months ago... if you bail out the banks with taxpayer money and that money goes to pay bonuses then you will not get my vote. It's criminal to take tax payer money and create individual wealth for a few individuals who are as much to blame as the public, who BTW will not be bailed out.
oops...I'm sorry LVLady...just following in libs footsteps...my bad...:-)
"He is a lier ... It is time foe Nevada to say, No More Harry"
No, it's time for you to figure out how your spell checker works.
Look at all the talk radio morons and their use of excerpts from other shows, proceedings, news shows, and so on. "Now let's play clip 12" and so on. That's half of Hannity's and Limpbough's show.
By the time this gets to court, the election will be over.
Angle's team should duplicate Reid's site and put up his real stands on issues like on gun rights (he votes for anti-gun judges), abortion, bailout, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, ObamaCare, "The War is Lost", Reid's racist comments on blacks, etc.
Crazy Angle.
Afraid to be associated WITH HER OWN WEB CONTENT!!!
"Well, that was before I was running for Senator.
I might think that crazy crap now, but I sure can't
share that NutJob logic with the masses; It won't fly in November. No, it's time to hide my true intentions and previous statements in a "virtual closet" and put on a FALSE FRONT."
Yeah, Sure. Okay, Sharron.
That'll work.
Sharon call "Rightklaven" or whatever it's called.
boftx, in re: your 3:49pm post on 7/6, would this head have helped clear the air:
"First Amendment Releases StrAnglehold on Web Content"
While the jury is out on altered screen captures -- until the forensic evidence is in, I suppose -- the former site content was poorly written and may have contributed to some of its awkward presentation.
Thanks Harry, the dirtier your campaign gets the more I know that Angle is the right choice!
The other day Harry took Sharron Angle's donors list, and contacted them, told them all kinds of lies, but he got caught. When you are desperate to hold on to your power you do anything and everything and Harry is looking desperate!
On her worst day, Angle is far better than that corrupt Reid!!
john-e-boy,
No, it wouldn't have. Ms. Damon makes a specific claim in the headline then mentions nothing of it in the body of the post, nor is it in fact Reid who has put the site up again when looking at the disclaimer on the site.
It is one thing to make speculations in the body of the post, but to use one in a headline and then offer nothing in support of it does not seem to be a good practice to me.
Reminds me: does anyone know where the northern Nevada HQ for None of the Above is located? I'd like to put up some yard signs...
Sorry for misspelling your name, john-e-be. I just realized that I did.
LOL the only reason anyone likes Angle is casue shes "not as bad as Reid". She is trying to hide her own info, she is a liar and nut job. I hope Nevada is smart enough to figure that out.
Boftx, the "trick" you refer to is one that has existed since, oh, the beginning of politics. Republicans do it to Democrats and Democrats do it to Republicans. You want to vote against the Reids? Fine. Destroy the state--it isn't as if your guy Gibbons hasn't tried. But don't be silly, ok?
As for neiman1's concerns about poor Sharron Mangle, a question: why is she denying the positions that won her the GOP primary?
We must never forget - nor forgive this man for standing on the floor of the US Senate - during the most difficult time we faced in Iraq - with our troops on the ground in harm's way - and yelled, "This war is LOST"!
Today, Iraq is on the verge of a new coalition and democratic government. Stability is at hand.
Harry Reid is UNFIT for public office and I need not even mention the files of shady land deals and Mormon contracting anomalous !
doubledown_deadender. You summed up a hateful world perfectly; one that never forgets and never forgives, is always at war or making preparations for war, shrieks bloody murder to ensure its demands of hate are met, and at the slightest provocation will destroy any hope for peace. Nothing it makes but has the mark of oblivion on it.
Yesterday on conservative radio 840 am, Sharon Angle was asked by a conservative listener why she flip flopped and went from saying eliminate social security to fixing it.
Angle responded she did not flip flop and did not advocate eliminating social security.
I am no Harry Reid fan, but how can Reid haters be so blind to the political pandering of Angle also?
Can we please have a third candidate? I cannot vote for Angle.
Someone explain why Angle is so hard pressed to not stay with her original platform that won her the primary?
And please do so without mentioning Harry Reid.
Two Sharon Angle Quotes...word for word
""will show voters the difference between Reid and me on abortion: He flip-flops on the issues."
"You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years. I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around?"
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More Sharron Angle Quotes
"I would tell you that I have the same feelings about legalizing marijuana, not medical marijuana, but just legalizing marijuana," Angle offered. "I feel the same about legalizing alcohol."
"My agenda in Washington will be the same as I've had here in this state -- less government regulation."
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I am sure BP will cheer LESS regulation and oversight because they are sure they can take care of their own safety compliance.
http://therealharryreid.nrsc.org/
Celeritas - the act of treason is not something you forgive or forget, especially when it is committed for personal power and gain - by a US Senator.
Make no mistake and for the record, I hate traitors!
Patriotism is not a part-time or partisan-optional requirement for those who serve in our Nations Institutions. IN fact, it is part of the oath they take - (Google if you must).
_deadender,
"This war is lost," said (not shouted) by Reid was not an act of treason. Bush and Cheney lied to bring our country into war with Iraq; those were acts of treason.
Yet you think you are qualified to give lectures on the attributes of patriotism. You are not so qualified.
boftx:
I will ALWAYS forgive AND forget any act of treason against my username...
Angle has done too much damaged unto herself and now tried to clear it up by changing her website. She honestly think people will forget come election time, hahahaha!!!! Great job RePUKEblicans!!!
Senator Harry Reid will get my vote!!!
Thanks, john-e-be. All too often a mis-spelling of a username is meant as an insult. My mistake was purely due to my not paying complete attention.
deadender - Don't forget about Cheney outing a covert operative for political revenge. He should have been hung. Much more serious than mere words.
I think Angle's old web site is great: get rid of the IRS, audit the Federal Reserve, and so on. She has a history of going up against big Goliaths. Heck, with Reid doing all the negative ads, his son Rory not using his last name, and now this piece about Reid being a crybaby and crying foul to expose Sharron's website (roots), who cares! Reid is a symbol of the dirty Federal cartel of pigs, bankers, lawyers and politicians that must GO away. Reid has played his cards. The stimulus money did not come to the Nevada taxpayers; it was stolen from them. I think Reid should be thrown in jail; he is a crook.
@doubledowndeadender;
"Today, Iraq is on the verge of a new coalition and democratic government. Stability is at hand."
THANK YOU for a good laugh!!!
When hell, or Baghdad, freezes over.
Harry is the most despicable creature ever! To throw harry and Nancy out of office and into a "home" that cares for senile old jerks is what we need to do! The man is an idiot, his brain has rotted. I think this time he will go, he barely made it last time! We see through him and know he is worthless and dangerous. Buh bye Harry the rocker is waiting!!